Doc Posted October 9 Posted October 9 40 minutes ago, B-Man said: We went to Disney between Frances and Ivan that year. Had to delay our trip 2 days to get in. The parks were almost empty and they were giving away free food they had made but couldn't sell. 1 1
Starr-Bills Posted October 11 Posted October 11 On 10/9/2024 at 11:48 PM, B-Man said: . Hurricane brought to you by the fuel needed to clean up. 1
All_Pro_Bills Posted October 11 Posted October 11 18 minutes ago, Starr-Bills said: Hurricane brought to you by the fuel needed to clean up. How does your theory of causality explain the Tampa hurricane of 1848, a much worse storm, which occurred before there was any oil and gas production and the human population was a fraction of its current size? My problem with the simple CO2 is the sole cause of global warming theory is that it assumes the other 99.96% of the atmosphere, and other environmental factors have no explainable impact on the climate. I think the problem is much more complex and requires further examination before jumping to solutions, which is what we're doing here. 2
Starr-Bills Posted October 11 Posted October 11 Thanks professor, It's reassuring you are not concerned. Looking at any data, it is not that storms didn't happen before, it's that they are happening with increased frequency (and intensity). So sure, big storms happened before. This proves nothing. Additionally its isn't that the changes are linear it is more that the weather is more variable and the extremes are more frequent. Heat waves are longer and more intense, winters are more volatile. Let's look at your "99.96%" number, fact of the matter is that we have change the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere by a tremendous amount. Amount "Since the onset of industrial times in the 18th century, human activities have raised atmospheric CO2 by 50% – meaning the amount of CO2 is now 150% of its value in 1750. This human-induced rise is greater than the natural increase observed at the end of the last ice age 20,000 years ago." for those playing along at home that means the it has gone from ~0.025% to 0.040% Effect By volume, the dry air in Earth’s atmosphere is about 78.08 percent nitrogen, 20.95 percent oxygen, and 0.93 percent argon.A brew of trace gases accounts for the other approximately 0.04 percent, including the greenhouse gases carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide and ozone. Yet while these greenhouse gases make up just a tiny percentage of our atmosphere, they play major roles in trapping Earth’s radiant heat and keeping it from escaping into space, thereby warming our planet and contributing to Earth’s greenhouse effect.The largest greenhouse gas by volume is actually the one most people tend to overlook: water vapor, whose concentration varies significantly depending on temperature. As the temperature of the atmosphere increases, the amount of humidity in the atmosphere also goes up, further heating our planet in a vicious cycle.Tiny solid or liquid particles known as aerosols, which are produced both naturally and by human activities, are also present in variable amounts, along with human-produced industrial pollutants and natural and human-produced sulfur compounds. This causes heating in the atmosphere. Any data you look at (avg temp, sea ice, antarctic sea ice, ocean surface temp etc) are all obviously trending upwards at an accelerating rate. You may not want to believe it but the evidence is clear. The climate is changing. It could be sun spots or Irv eating too many beans, but it is changed from 50 years ago, or even 10 years ago. Additionally there is NO reason to do nothing. The trends are pretty clear, but even if you are still unsure, what is hurt by actually making changes to reduce carbon use. As for solutions. The post isn't proposing any solutions. It is showing that the very industry that profits from dumping Co2 into the atmosphere knew that doing so would have consequences (and pretty accurately predicted them) for the atmosphere and the climate. But the solution is simple, stop needlessly dumping carbon in to the atmosphere. It doesn't mean no fossil fuels it means smart use and a mixed energy grid. Unfortunately it's not going to stop the change that is motion already but we can lessen the length of the effects But the bigger issue to me is your reaction. Needs more study. it's been studied sine the 70's (pointy of my post) and what they predicted then is bearing out in the data now. However you don't want to believe it. So you wont do anything about it, matter of fact, you will fight it. Maybe watch "don't look up" until you get it. (P.S. The astroid is a metaphor). Okay off to till at some wind mills now... 1
Wacka Posted October 11 Posted October 11 Lets see how well you outrun a hurricane on your 10-speed ,Spadex Bob. 1
K D Posted October 11 Posted October 11 If Global warming is real then why do most politicians own beach front property? After the sea levels rise (wasn't it supposed to have already happened by now?) there won't be many Dem voters left according to this map! 1
B-Man Posted November 24 Posted November 24 Uproar at U.N. Climate Summit as Envoys Say Proposed $250 Billion a Year from West Not Enough by Frances Martel A draft text released Friday from the environmental negotiators at the U.N.’s COP29 climate alarmism summit would demand that wealthy nations commit to gifting poorer countries $250 billion a year between now and 2035. Climate activists responded to the proposed contribution with outrage, claiming the sum is “paltry” and “a joke.” COP29 — formally the Conference of Parties to the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) — is the 19th edition of the U.N.’s official assembly to discuss how to globally address the alleged climate crisis. It is currently taking place in Baku, Azerbaijan, and scheduled to conclude on Friday, though the disagreements over the provisions in the outcome text https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2024/11/22/uproar-u-n-climate-summit-envoys-say-proposed-250-billion-year-from-west-not-enough/ Don't worry true believers. . . . . . . . . . Come January 20th it's going to be less. .
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted November 24 Posted November 24 4 hours ago, B-Man said: Uproar at U.N. Climate Summit as Envoys Say Proposed $250 Billion a Year from West Not Enough by Frances Martel A draft text released Friday from the environmental negotiators at the U.N.’s COP29 climate alarmism summit would demand that wealthy nations commit to gifting poorer countries $250 billion a year between now and 2035. Climate activists responded to the proposed contribution with outrage, claiming the sum is “paltry” and “a joke.” COP29 — formally the Conference of Parties to the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) — is the 19th edition of the U.N.’s official assembly to discuss how to globally address the alleged climate crisis. It is currently taking place in Baku, Azerbaijan, and scheduled to conclude on Friday, though the disagreements over the provisions in the outcome text https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2024/11/22/uproar-u-n-climate-summit-envoys-say-proposed-250-billion-year-from-west-not-enough/ Don't worry true believers. . . . . . . . . . Come January 20th it's going to be less. . It just always seems to be the money that saves the world…. 1 1
dgrochester55 Posted November 25 Posted November 25 11 hours ago, B-Man said: Uproar at U.N. Climate Summit as Envoys Say Proposed $250 Billion a Year from West Not Enough by Frances Martel A draft text released Friday from the environmental negotiators at the U.N.’s COP29 climate alarmism summit would demand that wealthy nations commit to gifting poorer countries $250 billion a year between now and 2035. Climate activists responded to the proposed contribution with outrage, claiming the sum is “paltry” and “a joke.” COP29 — formally the Conference of Parties to the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) — is the 19th edition of the U.N.’s official assembly to discuss how to globally address the alleged climate crisis. It is currently taking place in Baku, Azerbaijan, and scheduled to conclude on Friday, though the disagreements over the provisions in the outcome text https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2024/11/22/uproar-u-n-climate-summit-envoys-say-proposed-250-billion-year-from-west-not-enough/ Don't worry true believers. . . . . . . . . . Come January 20th it's going to be less. . When the UN calls for celebrities and politicians to stop flying private jets, I will take the threat more seriously. 1 1 1
Orlando Buffalo Posted November 25 Posted November 25 I have long suspected that the climate change cult was dishonest but this is when I was certain they don't worry at all about being accurate. In 2018 several cities in South Africa had "day zero" where they would run out of water, since then the cities have grown substantially and still have water. https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/09/africa/cape-town-day-zero-crisis-intl/index.html 1
B-Man Posted November 25 Posted November 25 Taylor Sheridan's New Show 'Landman' Tackles Wind Turbines In a sea of redundant, woke garbage, Taylor Sheridan continues to produce shows with a refreshingly honest and fresh direction. From "Yellowstone" to "Tulsa King," he's not afraid to break the traditional mores dictated by Hollywood, and it's paid dividends with viewership. His latest endeavor, "Landman," centers on the oil industry and contrasts the lives of Texas-based tycoons and workers, and one clip is already going viral. Billy Bob Thorton, who plays "Tommy Norris" in the show, lays out the reality of wind turbines and the human need for fossil fuels in a way that will have you fist-pumping. https://redstate.com/bonchie/2024/11/25/watch-viral-clip-on-wind-turbines-from-taylor-sheridans-new-landman-will-have-you-fist-pumping-n2182446 .
Orlando Buffalo Posted December 10 Posted December 10 5 hours ago, B-Man said: These libs are starting to cost me money,I I vested in Orlando because I believed in global warming in 2001 and my house should be beach front by now!! 1 1
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted December 11 Posted December 11 The only reason China is pumping millions into US climatista organizations is because they care so much about the future of the planet. No need to question it.
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