Tiberius Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 11 hours ago, 4merper4mer said: Lol. Who would be capped if capitalism was dismantled? Cap and trade is capitalism based
4merper4mer Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Cap and trade is capitalism based Lol at that but anyway.....the premise being discussed was dismantling capitalism so again.....who would be capped?
Tiberius Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 49 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Lol at that but anyway.....the premise being discussed was dismantling capitalism so again.....who would be capped? Polluters would be. Is that really so terrible?
4merper4mer Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 20 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Polluters would be. Is that really so terrible? Without capitalism nobody can pollute right?
Wacka Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Without capitalism nobody can pollute right? Except that the most polluted countries were Eastern Europe under Communism.
Tiberius Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 12 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Without capitalism nobody can pollute right? You can have both regulation and capitalism, just like we always have.
4merper4mer Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 9 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You can have both regulation and capitalism, just like we always have. The topic was the dude saying dismantling capitalism is the only thing that can save Earth, or at least humanity.
Tiberius Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 15 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: The topic was the dude saying dismantling capitalism is the only thing that can save Earth, or at least humanity. Ok, I do not agree with that. Capitalism is a progressive force that just needs regulation, imo
Tiberius Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 Quote As Hurricane Michael rips through homes and communities, we send our sympathies to all those in its path, but let’s also review what some leading Florida residents have said about climate change. “One of the most preposterous hoaxes in the history of the planet,” scoffed Rush Limbaugh of Palm Beach. Gov. Rick Scott’s administration went so far as to bar some agencies from even using the term “climate change,” according to the Florida Center for Investigative Reporting (Scott denied this). Myopic Floridians have plenty of company. President Trump dismissed climate change as a hoax “created by and for the Chinese.” Senator James Inhofe, a Republican of Oklahoma, “disproved” climate change by taking a snowball onto the Senate floor and noting that it was chilly outside; using similarly rigorous scientific methods, he wrote a book about climate change called “The Greatest Hoax.” Alas, denying climate change doesn’t actually prevent it. North Carolina passed a law in 2012 prohibiting the use of climate science in certain state planning, yet that didn’t intimidate Hurricane Florence last month. And banning the words “climate change” isn’t helping Florida now. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/10/opinion/climate-change-hurricane-michael.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
Koko78 Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 It's amazing that hurricanes didn't exist before global warming climate change became settle science through consensus. I'm guessing that the 1900 Galveston, Texas hurricane was just a media hoax, since global warming climate change wasn't a thing back then. 1
KRC Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 13 minutes ago, Koko78 said: It's amazing that hurricanes didn't exist before global warming climate change became settle science through consensus. I'm guessing that the 1900 Galveston, Texas hurricane was just a media hoax, since global warming climate change wasn't a thing back then. You notice that this hurricane did not happen until Kavanaugh was confirmed? Friggin' Kavanaugh. 1
Koko78 Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 39 minutes ago, KRC said: You notice that this hurricane did not happen until Kavanaugh was confirmed? Friggin' Kavanaugh. Kavanaugh kills women though COBRA's Dick Cheney's Weather Dominator! I'll bet you he's a THREE scoops of ice cream kinda Justice. 1
KRC Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 8 minutes ago, Koko78 said: I'll bet you he's a THREE scoops of ice cream kinda Justice. Well, he is in charge of the cafeteria now... 1
Koko78 Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 38 minutes ago, KRC said: Well, he is in charge of the cafeteria now... Clearly he's unfit for the nation's highest court.
Nanker Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 If only Hillary had won. We'd be talking about Supreme Court Associate Justice Loretta Lynch and there would not have been a hurricane.
Tiberius Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 STAHL: Do you still think that climate change is a hoax? TRUMP: I think something’s happening. Something’s changing and it’ll change back again. I don’t think it’s a hoax, I think there’s probably a difference. But I don’t know that it’s manmade. I will say this. I don’t want to give trillions and trillions of dollars. I don’t want to lose millions and millions of jobs. I don’t want to be put at a disadvantage. STAHL: I wish you could go to Greenland, watch these huge chunks of ice just falling into the ocean, raising the sea levels. TRUMP: And you don’t know whether or not that would have happened with or without man. You don’t know. STAHL: Well, your scientists, your scientists– TRUMP: No, we have– STAHL: at N.O.A.A. and N.A.S.A.– TRUMP: We have scientists that disagree with that. STAHL: You know, I– I was thinking what if he said, “No, I’ve seen the hurricane situations, I’ve changed my mind. There really is climate change.” And I thought, “Wow, what an impact.” TRUMP: Well– I’m not denying. STAHL: What an impact that would make. TRUMP: I’m not denying climate change. But it could very well go back. You know, we’re talking about over a millions — STAHL: But that’s denying it. TRUMP: of years. They say that we had hurricanes that were far worse than what we just had with Michael. STAHL: Who says that? “They say”? TRUMP: People say. People say that in the– STAHL: Yeah, but what about the scientists who say it’s worse than ever? TRUMP: You’d have to show me the scientists because they have a very big political agenda, Lesley. STAHL: I can’t bring them in. TRUMP: Look, scientists also have a political agenda
Koko78 Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 Arguing with the interviewee is now a journalistic interview technique? No bias there. 1
Tiberius Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Arguing with the interviewee is now a journalistic interview technique? No bias there. Unfair! And where she threw the scientist options at him! Unfair! Just because he is a total ignoranamous doesn't give her the right to challange him!
Koko78 Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 (edited) Ah, yes. We all forget that a consensus of scientists regarding an incredibly complex and dynamic set of variables that run in cycles that span centuries, if not millennia, is settled science. Not to mention that the only cure for such settled science is a massive redistribution of wealth and reorganization of the world economy to a socialist/communist ideal. Edited October 15, 2018 by Koko78
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