B-Man Posted February 2, 2015 Posted February 2, 2015 "It is an indisputable fact that carbon emissions are rising, and faster than most scientists have predicted," "But many climate-change alarmists seem to claim that all climate change is worse than expected. This ignores that much of the data are actually encouraging. The latest study from the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change found that in the previous 15 years temperatures had risen 0.09 degrees Fahrenheit. The average of all models expected 0.8 degrees. So we’re seeing about 90% less temperature rise than expected."So begins Bjorn Lomberg's WSJ piece "The Alarming Thing About Climate Alarmism/Exaggerated, worst-case claims result in bad policy and they ignore a wealth of encouraging data." .
birdog1960 Posted February 2, 2015 Posted February 2, 2015 "It is an indisputable fact that carbon emissions are rising, and faster than most scientists have predicted," "But many climate-change alarmists seem to claim that all climate change is worse than expected. This ignores that much of the data are actually encouraging. The latest study from the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change found that in the previous 15 years temperatures had risen 0.09 degrees Fahrenheit. The average of all models expected 0.8 degrees. So we’re seeing about 90% less temperature rise than expected." So begins Bjorn Lomberg's WSJ piece "The Alarming Thing About Climate Alarmism/Exaggerated, worst-case claims result in bad policy and they ignore a wealth of encouraging data." . hmmm... the wsj andlomberg: http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/06/25/3453053/koch-bjorn-lomborg-lousy-t-shirt/. this is what should arouse skepticism.
B-Man Posted February 2, 2015 Posted February 2, 2015 Of Course............................. It's the Koch Brothers fault !.................................lol Bjørn Lomborg is the director of the Copenhagen Consensus Center and a former director of the Environmental Assessment Institute in Copenhagen. Wikipedia Books: The Skeptical Environmentalist .
birdog1960 Posted February 2, 2015 Posted February 2, 2015 Of Course............................. It's the Koch Brothers fault !.................................lol Bjørn Lomborg is the director of the Copenhagen Consensus Center and a former director of the Environmental Assessment Institute in Copenhagen. Wikipedia Books: The Skeptical Environmentalist . "In January, 2003, the DCSD released a ruling that sent a mixed message, finding the book to be scientifically dishonest through misrepresentation of scientific facts, but Lomborg himself not guilty due to his lack of expertise in the fields in question..." he's a political scientist. he's funded by far right propaganda companies and hew's been formally investigated for academic dishonesty with the above cited findings. and you find his opinions on this compelling?
DC Tom Posted February 2, 2015 Posted February 2, 2015 So we’re seeing about 90% less temperature rise than expected." Since when is that a valid measure of temperature difference?
DC Tom Posted February 2, 2015 Posted February 2, 2015 But how do we know Phil's shadow wasn't from all the stage lights surrounding him as part of this whole ceremony? Punxsutawney Phil's forecasting model is deeply flawed. And it's such a commercialized forecast, we know he's corrupted by money. The rodent gets the same skepticism from me as the climatologists.
Greg F Posted February 2, 2015 Posted February 2, 2015 You mean climate change evidence like this? Only in America do we accept the word of someone with credentials when the evidence that proves they are full of it is staring us right in the face.
birdog1960 Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 You mean climate change evidence like this? Only in America do we accept the word of someone with credentials when the evidence that proves they are full of it is staring us right in the face. not only in america. i thought kyoto was on another continent. and it was only NOT america, almost... i find this graph interesting: http://www.skepticalscience.com/images/SLR_models_obs.gif
DC Tom Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 not only in america. i thought kyoto was on another continent. and it was only NOT america, almost... i find this graph interesting: http://www.skepticalscience.com/images/SLR_models_obs.gif Pretty graph is pretty. But not very informative. How do they account for waves?
Not a Hamster Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 Onlyz in America do stupidm writers keep drinkingq boiled gerbilz poop passedm off as gourmet coffeem, I betz you toldn your friendsp it has a "hint of lime" or some otherm snotty crap. Jokes on youz. Merry Christmas "coffee" fromw Sammy.
Gary M Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) not only in america. i thought kyoto was on another continent. and it was only NOT america, almost... i find this graph interesting: http://www.skepticalscience.com/images/SLR_models_obs.gif Oceans have been rising since the end of the last ice age. You still can't prove my SUV is to blame. Edited February 3, 2015 by Gary M
birdog1960 Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) Oceans have been rising since the end of the last ice age. You still can't prove my SUV is to blame. i can't prove that you evolved from pond scum but it seems pretty likely. and food for thought. why are there so many lomborgs on the skeptic side. and why do they have access to print in large, widely read conservative publications? Edited February 3, 2015 by birdog1960
Gary M Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 i can't prove that you evolved from pond scum but it seems pretty likely. and food for thought. why are there so many lomborgs on the skeptic side. and why do they have access to print in large, widely read conservative publications? More climate change news. http://news.yahoo.com/650-drought-triggered-ancient-citys-abandonment-135024933.html
Nanker Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 Don't we have more important matters to discuss like, who was the left shark in Katy Perry's SB routine?
birdog1960 Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 Don't we have more important matters to discuss like, who was the left shark in Katy Perry's SB routine? right shark vs left shark = missy elliott vs katy perry. it was no contest.
Gary M Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) Don't we have more important matters to discuss like, who was the left shark in Katy Perry's SB routine? Edited February 3, 2015 by Gary M
Joe Miner Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 Seems like quite a fitting movie for the circular arguments on climate change.
Dante Posted February 4, 2015 Posted February 4, 2015 Only in America do we accept dire climate change in the future when they can't accurately predict weather the next day.
Deranged Rhino Posted February 4, 2015 Posted February 4, 2015 Only in America do we accept dire climate change in the future when they can't accurately predict weather the next day. Um... It's 2015. 24 hour forecasts are pretty routine and near 100%.
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