Deranged Rhino Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Just now, DC Tom said: No, there's no benefit to shouting "innovate!" and pretending you're doing something. R&D doesn't innovate, they research and develop. I hear you but we know that's not what I'm saying. Whatever the solution will be to the next energy source we rely on, one that can replace coal/oil (if one exists -- which it does), will require $$$ and someone brave enough to put it into that new idea. The better our economy, the more money we have to throw against the wall on what would otherwise be seen as crazy/pie in the sky ideas that MIGHT work. The weaker the economy, the less risk you're going to be able to take finding that next big thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 17 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Innovation isn't the way forward, it's just a word people use when they don't know the way forward but they're damned sure someone else will figure it out for them. It's how ######s justify their ######edness. Nothing more. Case in point. "You can innovate." What the ***** does that even mean? "You can innovate." That's verbage used by clowns who haven't a coherent though in their empty little heads. This is the main problem with the “Trump world” TM. You answer comments with angry rants. This is why is stopped backing Republicans until he is gone. We had the high ground but we traded it for insulting behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Locomark said: This is the main problem with the “Trump world” TM. You answer comments with angry rants. This is why is stopped backing Republicans until he is gone. We had the high ground but we traded it for insulting behavior. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Locomark said: This is the main problem with the “Trump world” TM. You answer comments with angry rants. This is why is stopped backing Republicans until he is gone. We had the high ground but we traded it for insulting behavior. No, the main problem in "Trump world," whatever the ***** that is, is that we have to deal with whey-brained shitburgers like you. Look, you're stupid, we get it. But it's not our problem, it's yours. So go "innovate" a solution to it, and let us know how that works out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 You know if DR is against green energy, it’s probably a good idea. Whoever he speaks for doesn’t want the change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: I hear you but we know that's not what I'm saying. Whatever the solution will be to the next energy source we rely on, one that can replace coal/oil (if one exists -- which it does), will require $$$ and someone brave enough to put it into that new idea. The better our economy, the more money we have to throw against the wall on what would otherwise be seen as crazy/pie in the sky ideas that MIGHT work. The weaker the economy, the less risk you're going to be able to take finding that next big thing. This is what needs to be solved, as these are interdependent Energy Generation Energy Distribution Energy Availability/Storage Go! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 14 minutes ago, GG said: This is what needs to be solved, as these are interdependent Energy Generation Energy Distribution Energy Availability/Storage Go! Ooooh, I know the solution. Innovation! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 On 11/28/2019 at 10:20 AM, Chef Jim said: I’m still wondering. Is wind and solar free? Absolutely, once you spend billions for the inefficient equipment and infrastructure and ignore maintenance and replacement costs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 And the first of the 36 panic stricken freezing rain warnings blurt out they will be right once or twice this winter season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, row_33 said: And the first of the 36 panic stricken freezing rain warnings blurt out they will be right once or twice this winter season ...Euell Gibbons just choked on his granola........ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...Euell Gibbons just choked on his granola........ elderly relatives call and worry that we”ll all die in Toronto every time they come up with a freezing rain forecast.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 24 minutes ago, row_33 said: elderly relatives call and worry that we”ll all die in Toronto every time they come up with a freezing rain forecast.... ..put Halite in their martinis...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 They say history repeats itself, and for good reason: Because it does. This latest example might give those of a certain age flashbacks to the late 1960s and all through the 1970s: From our perspective, this sums it up best: NeverTweet @LOLNeverTweet About 11,000 scientists declare that there is waaaaaay too much of you, just the right amount of them. 6:20 AM - 30 Nov 2019 . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 11,000 "experts", and not a one of them has the first clue how to properly express their ideas without sounding like complete ***** idiots. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 39 minutes ago, Koko78 said: 11,000 "experts", and not a one of them has the first clue how to properly express their ideas without sounding like complete ***** idiots. Are we talking about climate scientists or the people they interview on Ancient Aliens? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, /dev/null said: Are we talking about climate scientists or the people they interview on Ancient Aliens? Climate scientists, because... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 MIT engineers made a cheaper and more efficient device to trap carbon dioxide https://thenextweb.com/syndication/2019/12/01/mit-engineers-made-a-cheaper-and-more-efficient-device-to-trap-carbon-dioxide/ Capturing carbon dioxide from smokestacks, and even removing it directly from air, might be the only way to avert the most catastrophic effects of climate change. Engineers at MIT have now created a device to trap carbon dioxide that is much less energy-intensive and costly than today’s technologies. The device, reported in the journal Energy and Environmental Science, works a lot like a battery. It absorbs carbon dioxide from air passing over its electrodes. It could be made as small and large as needed, making it easy to use at different carbon dioxide emission sources. And unlike today’s carbon-capture techniques, it works for a wide range of concentrations. So it could be used to scrub carbon dioxide from factory and power plant flue gases or even directly pull it from the atmosphere, where it’s present at much lower levels. Existing methods to absorb carbon dioxide from flue gases typically use watery solutions of amine or solid sorbent materials. The solution has to be heated to release the carbon dioxide and reuse the amine. This takes a lot of energy. Plus, the technology does not work at the lower concentrations found in air. Companies such as Climeworks have developed commercial plants that use special filters to suck up carbon dioxide directly from air. But the filters also have to be heated for reuse. The new MIT system uses only electricity, so it could be powered by renewables. The device contains two thin, flexible electrode sheets coated with two different chemical compounds. During charging, one of the compounds, called polyanthraquinone, reacts with carbon dioxide and integrates the gas into the electrode. Discharging releases the carbon dioxide and frees up the quinone for reuse. The idea is to pass a stream of flue gas or air through the device during charging to scrub it of carbon dioxide from. Once the electrode is saturated, the device would be switched to discharge mode and the pure released carbon dioxide could be compressed for storage underground or for use to make fuels and other chemicals. Or two separate units could be operated in opposite modes to remove carbon dioxide continuously. The system uses about one gigajoule of energy per ton of carbon dioxide captured. Other existing methods can use up to 10 times that much, according to Sahag Voskian, a chemical engineering postdoctoral researcher who developed the new technology. He added that the electrodes should cost tens of dollars per square meter to produce, and could easily be made in large quantities using roll-to-roll processing techniques. So what ? We still need to transfer wealth from rich countries to poor ones...........and stifle all development. . 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 54 minutes ago, B-Man said: MIT engineers made a cheaper and more efficient device to trap carbon dioxide https://thenextweb.com/syndication/2019/12/01/mit-engineers-made-a-cheaper-and-more-efficient-device-to-trap-carbon-dioxide/ Capturing carbon dioxide from smokestacks, and even removing it directly from air, might be the only way to avert the most catastrophic effects of climate change. Engineers at MIT have now created a device to trap carbon dioxide that is much less energy-intensive and costly than today’s technologies. The device, reported in the journal Energy and Environmental Science, works a lot like a battery. It absorbs carbon dioxide from air passing over its electrodes. It could be made as small and large as needed, making it easy to use at different carbon dioxide emission sources. And unlike today’s carbon-capture techniques, it works for a wide range of concentrations. So it could be used to scrub carbon dioxide from factory and power plant flue gases or even directly pull it from the atmosphere, where it’s present at much lower levels. Existing methods to absorb carbon dioxide from flue gases typically use watery solutions of amine or solid sorbent materials. The solution has to be heated to release the carbon dioxide and reuse the amine. This takes a lot of energy. Plus, the technology does not work at the lower concentrations found in air. Companies such as Climeworks have developed commercial plants that use special filters to suck up carbon dioxide directly from air. But the filters also have to be heated for reuse. The new MIT system uses only electricity, so it could be powered by renewables. The device contains two thin, flexible electrode sheets coated with two different chemical compounds. During charging, one of the compounds, called polyanthraquinone, reacts with carbon dioxide and integrates the gas into the electrode. Discharging releases the carbon dioxide and frees up the quinone for reuse. The idea is to pass a stream of flue gas or air through the device during charging to scrub it of carbon dioxide from. Once the electrode is saturated, the device would be switched to discharge mode and the pure released carbon dioxide could be compressed for storage underground or for use to make fuels and other chemicals. Or two separate units could be operated in opposite modes to remove carbon dioxide continuously. The system uses about one gigajoule of energy per ton of carbon dioxide captured. Other existing methods can use up to 10 times that much, according to Sahag Voskian, a chemical engineering postdoctoral researcher who developed the new technology. He added that the electrodes should cost tens of dollars per square meter to produce, and could easily be made in large quantities using roll-to-roll processing techniques. So what ? We still need to transfer wealth from rich countries to poor ones...........and stifle all development. . Yes, but think of the trees! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 https://babylonbee.com/news/fun-new-greta-on-the-shelf-will-track-your-climate-sins 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 20 hours ago, B-Man said: MIT engineers made a cheaper and more efficient device to trap carbon dioxide https://thenextweb.com/syndication/2019/12/01/mit-engineers-made-a-cheaper-and-more-efficient-device-to-trap-carbon-dioxide/ Capturing carbon dioxide from smokestacks, and even removing it directly from air, might be the only way to avert the most catastrophic effects of climate change. Engineers at MIT have now created a device to trap carbon dioxide that is much less energy-intensive and costly than today’s technologies. The device, reported in the journal Energy and Environmental Science, works a lot like a battery. It absorbs carbon dioxide from air passing over its electrodes. It could be made as small and large as needed, making it easy to use at different carbon dioxide emission sources. And unlike today’s carbon-capture techniques, it works for a wide range of concentrations. So it could be used to scrub carbon dioxide from factory and power plant flue gases or even directly pull it from the atmosphere, where it’s present at much lower levels. Existing methods to absorb carbon dioxide from flue gases typically use watery solutions of amine or solid sorbent materials. The solution has to be heated to release the carbon dioxide and reuse the amine. This takes a lot of energy. Plus, the technology does not work at the lower concentrations found in air. Companies such as Climeworks have developed commercial plants that use special filters to suck up carbon dioxide directly from air. But the filters also have to be heated for reuse. The new MIT system uses only electricity, so it could be powered by renewables. The device contains two thin, flexible electrode sheets coated with two different chemical compounds. During charging, one of the compounds, called polyanthraquinone, reacts with carbon dioxide and integrates the gas into the electrode. Discharging releases the carbon dioxide and frees up the quinone for reuse. The idea is to pass a stream of flue gas or air through the device during charging to scrub it of carbon dioxide from. Once the electrode is saturated, the device would be switched to discharge mode and the pure released carbon dioxide could be compressed for storage underground or for use to make fuels and other chemicals. Or two separate units could be operated in opposite modes to remove carbon dioxide continuously. The system uses about one gigajoule of energy per ton of carbon dioxide captured. Other existing methods can use up to 10 times that much, according to Sahag Voskian, a chemical engineering postdoctoral researcher who developed the new technology. He added that the electrodes should cost tens of dollars per square meter to produce, and could easily be made in large quantities using roll-to-roll processing techniques. So what ? We still need to transfer wealth from rich countries to poor ones...........and stifle all development. . Glad you admit we have a huge problem. Why isn't any Republican pushing this solution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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