Frez Posted February 1, 2005 Posted February 1, 2005 This is an affidavit from a person who was shot by a Watertown City police officer. Thought some here would enjoy reading this. The City cop is now locked up in jail waiting for his day in court. He has hired a big time NYC lawyer. His father was a police officer with the Watertown Police for many many years. Affidavit from Ryan Dorr
CajunBillsBacker Posted February 2, 2005 Posted February 2, 2005 How can we swing this into being Drew Bledsoe's fault? Seriously, that's fugged up. That's exactly why i'm not getting in the middle of anyone's personal problems, friend or not. I bet the guy didn't know exactly what he was getting into, now he'll probably have scars and injuries for life because of this.
Mike F Posted February 2, 2005 Posted February 2, 2005 Some of you know that I am a Law Enforcement Officer, some of you may not. Being in the profession, I would like to comment. The job can change a person, especially the longer you are in it. We literally see society at it's worst, on a daily basis. I have almost eleven years under my belt and I am not the same person I was, when I started. I am a bit more cynical and less trusting, as a rule. Subtle changes in your personality are common, but not to the extent that the officer in this case reached. It sounds like he had serious issues, even before he became an Officer. I am not surprised by the dark side of humanity, either. You might be surprised what some of the people you know and trust are capable of, under the right circumstances. With that being said, if you have a large enough sample of people, you are bound to have a few "really bad apples", so to speak. The percentages are consistent and Police Officers are no different......the Officer in this story is, thankfully, in the extreme minority. Heck, he could have been a teacher, a truck driver or mail carrier............his job had less to do with his profession, then his mental state. The Officer (an insult to even use that term with a subject like that) should have been investigated by his agency, long before the situation reached it's sad conclusion. I know that safeguards exist, for that reason. I can't speak for his department, but, I know that my agency is extremely aggressive when one of it's own, starts to display disturbing, or unusual behavior. For example, if one of us has too many "uses of force", in a listed time period (justified, or not), we are flagged and monitored to make sure it is an abberration and not a trend. Or, when an initial complaint, like the one listed in the story, is made. Essentially, he was stalking the female (at the very least), even before the shooting, and that is a crime in any State. Had that been done in my area (stalking, battery), his gun (or guns) and badge would have been taken, and he would have been put on administrative leave, pending the disposition of the case. He would have been scheduled for a fitness for duty evaluation, including a psychological profile, had he been found innocent (before he was allowed to return). Would it have been enough to stop the shooting from taking place? Hard to say, but it would have given the authorities a chance. I hope the victim(s) are able to recover and I hope the former officer is prosecuted to the fullest extent. And, if any of you are in a similar situation, don't wait to report it. Mike
Mike F Posted February 2, 2005 Posted February 2, 2005 Make that "his job had less to do with his behavior, then his mental state" Some of you know that I am a Law Enforcement Officer, some of you may not. Being in the profession, I would like to comment. The job can change a person, especially the longer you are in it. We literally see society at it's worst, on a daily basis. I have almost eleven years under my belt and I am not the same person I was, when I started. I am a bit more cynical and less trusting, as a rule. Subtle changes in your personality are common, but not to the extent that the officer in this case reached. It sounds like he had serious issues, even before he became an Officer. I am not surprised by the dark side of humanity, either. You might be surprised what some of the people you know and trust are capable of, under the right circumstances. With that being said, if you have a large enough sample of people, you are bound to have a few "really bad apples", so to speak. The percentages are consistent and Police Officers are no different......the Officer in this story is, thankfully, in the extreme minority. Heck, he could have been a teacher, a truck driver or mail carrier............his job had less to do with his profession, then his mental state. The Officer (an insult to even use that term with a subject like that) should have been investigated by his agency, long before the situation reached it's sad conclusion. I know that safeguards exist, for that reason. I can't speak for his department, but, I know that my agency is extremely aggressive when one of it's own, starts to display disturbing, or unusual behavior. For example, if one of us has too many "uses of force", in a listed time period (justified, or not), we are flagged and monitored to make sure it is an abberration and not a trend. Or, when an initial complaint, like the one listed in the story, is made. Essentially, he was stalking the female (at the very least), even before the shooting, and that is a crime in any State. Had that been done in my area (stalking, battery), his gun (or guns) and badge would have been taken, and he would have been put on administrative leave, pending the disposition of the case. He would have been scheduled for a fitness for duty evaluation, including a psychological profile, had he been found innocent (before he was allowed to return). Would it have been enough to stop the shooting from taking place? Hard to say, but it would have given the authorities a chance. I hope the victim(s) are able to recover and I hope the former officer is prosecuted to the fullest extent. And, if any of you are in a similar situation, don't wait to report it. Mike 225597[/snapback]
Tux of Borg Posted February 2, 2005 Posted February 2, 2005 I'd be surprised if a psychological profile turned up anything. Restraining orders in cases like this are worthless. She should have picked up and left when she had the chance.
BB27 Posted February 2, 2005 Posted February 2, 2005 Is this really a true story? I have to say, I have written many affidavit's in my career, and that one seems a bit off. Too much information in some areas, and not enough in others. There are bad people in every career though, even law enforcement. I like to think this guy was the exception.
Frez Posted February 2, 2005 Author Posted February 2, 2005 I'd be surprised if a psychological profile turned up anything. Restraining orders in cases like this are worthless. She should have picked up and left when she had the chance. 225619[/snapback] It's her fault? Are you kidding me? She went to the police and told them everything and they did nothing about it to help her. Wait till the investigation turns up some stones within the police department itself. Ryan Dorr is going to be a rich rich man.
BB27 Posted February 2, 2005 Posted February 2, 2005 The guy should have called the NYS Police, calling the department of which the guy was an officer probably slowed things down. If this is actually true (see above post).
CentralVaBills Posted February 2, 2005 Posted February 2, 2005 This is an affidavit from a person who was shot by a Watertown City police officer. Thought some here would enjoy reading this. The City cop is now locked up in jail waiting for his day in court. He has hired a big time NYC lawyer. His father was a police officer with the Watertown Police for many many years. Affidavit from Ryan Dorr 225533[/snapback] So, sorry cuz I don't know, if this is a big story, I obviously haven't heard about it down here in VA......What happened to the girl???
Alaska Darin Posted February 2, 2005 Posted February 2, 2005 Is this really a true story? I have to say, I have written many affidavit's in my career, and that one seems a bit off. Too much information in some areas, and not enough in others. There are bad people in every career though, even law enforcement. I like to think this guy was the exception. 225626[/snapback] It's true. New Report
Frez Posted February 2, 2005 Author Posted February 2, 2005 It's a true story. I live 10 miles from Watertown and it's a big big story here. I will see if I can provide some more links to this story. The girl is just fine she was unharmed. The police officer led the upstate police force on a 24 hour manhunt in the woods before he finally gave himself up.
Frez Posted February 2, 2005 Author Posted February 2, 2005 It's true. New Report 225639[/snapback] Thanks AD, you beat me to the link. Just remember............. "Frez" is not a bullshitter. You have me confused with that guy named Fez.
Frez Posted February 2, 2005 Author Posted February 2, 2005 Here's a link to a local message board requarding the story. Message board
stevestojan Posted February 2, 2005 Posted February 2, 2005 This might be the world's dumbest question, but I assume Jessica is OK?
Frez Posted February 2, 2005 Author Posted February 2, 2005 This might be the world's dumbest question, but I assume Jessica is OK? 225649[/snapback] The worlds dumbest answer...................did you read the story? Yes, she was unharmed.
stevestojan Posted February 2, 2005 Posted February 2, 2005 The worlds dumbest answer...................did you read the story? Yes, she was unharmed. 225656[/snapback] I read the whole report... did i miss a page??? WTF? I'm dead sober, and I was pretty interested in teh police report. Perhaps reading just wasnt my thing... and I got a 720 on my verbal SATs.. that was before college, though. i quit.
Tux of Borg Posted February 2, 2005 Posted February 2, 2005 It's her fault? Are you kidding me? She went to the police and told them everything and they did nothing about it to help her. Wait till the investigation turns up some stones within the police department itself. Ryan Dorr is going to be a rich rich man. 225628[/snapback] I never said it was her fault. However, I would not let my life rest in the hands of an Internal Affairs investigation. If the Los Angles police department kicked out an officer every time they got a complaint, the force would be empty. It appears that Ryan and Jessica were "more than friends". I would expect him to plead not guilty by means of temporary insanity. It worked for Lorena Bobbitt.
Frez Posted February 2, 2005 Author Posted February 2, 2005 I never said it was her fault. However, I would not let my life rest in the hands of an Internal Affairs investigation. If the Los Angles police department kicked out an officer every time they got a complaint, the force would be empty. It appears that Ryan and Jessica were "more than friends". I would expect him to plead not guilty by means of temporary insanity. It worked for Lorena Bobbitt. 225671[/snapback] So what if they were "more than friends" ? The WPD knew the guy had problems and did not take the correct actions to help prevent this from taking place. To me it looks like a premeditated murder attempt. Will see what happens when them rocks get turned over inside the department.
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