RuntheDamnBall Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 Yes, in a heartbeat. Our defense is elite. Adding Cutler and a guard or two and we're a force next year. A force for the cigarette industry?
Talley56 Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 Cutler is an upgrade over any other QB on our roster. As long as it doesn't cost us a high future draft choice, why not?
NoSaint Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 This thread proves we over-value other team's garbage. Simply that even small steps up at qb could be valuable short term. Cutler isn't great but depending on how this offseason plays out he might be one of the better options
The Frankish Reich Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 This is a better plan than signing known d bag Cutler. I would Bradford to an incentive type deal. His injuries and lack of production scare me. But I like him more than Cutler for like $15 million. In other words, he kind of sucks and he's hurt (seriously) all the time. And he's owed $13 million guaranteed next year. That's why Cutler, even with all the baggage, will still be tradeable. There's just no one else out there who's available and offers the possibility of a significant upgrade. He's never played on a team with a dominant defense. Sometimes that's enough to cause a turnaround -- he plays more conservatively, doesn't try to single-handedly win games, suddenly ... who knows? But as I said, it all depends on what the Bills want to do. If they don't want to compete next year, by all means bring back Orton and EJ. But then you should also trade some other guys for draft picks and reload for 2017-19. I think there's enough talent here to go for it in 2015-16. If it fails, then you rebuild from scratch. Better to be the Cleveland Cavaliers than the Milwaukee Bucks, the Colts rather than the Bills .... 6-10 every year means no chance to get the next LeBron or Luck, ever.
Augie Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 not in 1,000,000 years What about the year after that? Granted, he'd be toward the back end of his career....
Formerly Allan in MD Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 Cutler has talent. In the right situation he could be a winner. But I'm not sure that would be here.
keepthefaith Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 Heck no. Put him on a team without Marshall and Jeffries and you won't like what you've got.
NoSaint Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 Heck no. Put him on a team without Marshall and Jeffries and you won't like what you've got. Hopefully sammy is better than both
filthymcnasty08 Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 Would rather have Bradford behind a fixed OL.
ctk232 Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 wtf? absolutely not. I don't like to quote previous posts of mine, but awhile back I posted a statistical analysis painting Cutler as an identical QB to Fitz. The similarities in physical ability coupled with throw accuracy and point production are uncanny. What this team needs more than anything is an everyday QB - an Aaron Rodgers would be ideal for this team (with a re-vamped OL as well, of course). Cutler wouldn't be an upgrade for this team, but only a lateral move that will postpone and hinder their progression further - we can't afford that, or him for that matter
keepthefaith Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 Hopefully sammy is better than both Sammy is not 6'-5" with a 9' wingspan like Marshall and Jeffries who make a lot of cutler's questionable throws look good.
Kirby Jackson Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 (edited) Prior to this season I would have been on board. What I have seen from the Bears this year terrifies me. There is a lot of talent and the performance has been appalling. It's far worse than what we are experiencing. I know that the options are limited but I'd rather go after Hoyer, Carr, Bradford or Manziel if the Bills go in another direction. It's possible that you could get Manziel or Carr for a 2nd and Hoyer is a FA. There are some others that could shake free that I would consider as well (Eli, Romo, Foles, Matt Ryan). I think that those are LONG shots but is it wise for teams going nowhere to keep expensive QBs in their 30's (except Foles)? Edited November 17, 2014 by Kirby Jackson
Fan in Chicago Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 Simply that even small steps up at qb could be valuable short term. Cutler isn't great but depending on how this offseason plays out he might be one of the better options I know we have differed on the Cutler issue in the past and will offer this counter-argument to your point. Mini-steps may be good in the short term but I am not sure Cutler will get us a materially different outcome on the season. Namely, not sure he can get us to the playoffs. Highly likely that we end up with 7-8 wins this season and in a division dominated by the Pats*, we will need 2-3 more wins to be assured of a playoff spot. Cutler has continually underperformed and been unable to lift his team over its other inadequacies. He will raise hopes in the short term only to end up with bitter disappointment by the end of the season. I want a more permanent solution to the QB void.
JohnC Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 (edited) Prior to this season Inwould have been on board. What I have seen from the Bears this year terrifies me. There is a lot of talent and the performance has been appalling. It's far worse than what we are experiencing. I know that the options are limited but I'd rather go after Hoyer, Carr, Bradford or Manziel if the Bills go in another direction. It's possible that you could get Manziel or Carr for a 2nd and Hoyer is a FA. There are some others that could shake free that I would consider as well (Eli, Romo, Foles, Matt Ryan). I think that those are LONG shots but is it wise for teams going nowhere to keep expensive QBs in their 30's (except Foles)? Why do you think that Carr would be on the market? I would definitely be interested in him. But I just don't see even the mercurial Raiders being foolish enough to prematurely quit on him. With respect to their desperate qb situation they are obviusly in a bind. It is a mess that they themselves created. Missing on EJ is not simply a singular mistake. It is a mistake that has set this franchise back. Edited November 17, 2014 by JohnC
Kirby Jackson Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 Why do you think that Carr would be on the market? I would definitely be interested in him. But I just don't see even the mercurial Raiders being foolish enough to prematurely quit on him. With respect to their desperate qb situation they are obviusly in a bind. It is a mess that they themselves created. Missing on EJ is not simply a singular mistake. It is a mistake that has set this franchise back. There are rumblings that if they land the 1st pick (likely) they may go after Mariota. It would be such a Raiders thing to do but possible.
markgbe Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 Why? Orton = Cutler. Both are moderately ok.
Wayne Cubed Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 There are rumblings that if they land the 1st pick (likely) they may go after Mariota. It would be such a Raiders thing to do but possible. Sounds like a Raiders move all the way. Suppose it depends on the Coach if they do or don't do it but I could certainly see a new coach wanting "his guy".
Gisele Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 no. i would not trade for jay cutler under ANY circumstance.
T master Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 (edited) Oh yeah - Id take him for sure no ifs ands or buts Attitude , What the trade cost would be , Salary , consistency , OC in B/lo , what makes him any better here than any where else . I think i would rather give Teabow a shot at least you know his attitude would be better !! Plus Marshal would have to come with him ... Edited November 17, 2014 by T master
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