Kirby Jackson Posted November 12, 2014 Posted November 12, 2014 I just did some math and they are on pace for a combined 43.5 sacks!! I am not sure what the record is for a trio but I would think that it is close. The record for a duo I believe is 39 (Doleman and Millard). Anyways, I didn't know where this fit so I started a new thread (felt like it deserved it).
bobobonators Posted November 12, 2014 Posted November 12, 2014 That's nasty. Throw in that no-named Kyle Williams and boy oh boy. God I can't wait until Kiko comes back next season. I was thinking about this - how much influence do you think Schwartz has had in Dareus' breakout campaign? I think coming from Detroit where he coached Suh - I'm sure Schwartz has told Dareus that he's twice the player that Suh is to motivate him. Under no circumstances does Schwartz leave this team if I'm pegula. I'd have Marrone pack it back to Syracuse before Schwartz left to be HC somewhere else.
Jauronimo Posted November 12, 2014 Posted November 12, 2014 That's nasty. Throw in that no-named Kyle Williams and boy oh boy. God I can't wait until Kiko comes back next season. I was thinking about this - how much influence do you think Schwartz has had in Dareus' breakout campaign? I think coming from Detroit where he coached Suh - I'm sure Schwartz has told Dareus that he's twice the player that Suh is to motivate him. Under no circumstances does Schwartz leave this team if I'm pegula. I'd have Marrone pack it back to Syracuse before Schwartz left to be HC somewhere else. I give Schwartzy a lot of credit. This defense is considerably better under Schwartz than it was under Pettine and it was pretty solid last year.
NoSaint Posted November 12, 2014 Posted November 12, 2014 That's nasty. Throw in that no-named Kyle Williams and boy oh boy. God I can't wait until Kiko comes back next season. I was thinking about this - how much influence do you think Schwartz has had in Dareus' breakout campaign? I think coming from Detroit where he coached Suh - I'm sure Schwartz has told Dareus that he's twice the player that Suh is to motivate him. Under no circumstances does Schwartz leave this team if I'm pegula. I'd have Marrone pack it back to Syracuse before Schwartz left to be HC somewhere else. schwartzs best seasons were when fat albert was playing for a contract. a guy like dareus does a lot to make his defense work. its a nice pairing to have.
PromoTheRobot Posted November 12, 2014 Posted November 12, 2014 I thought this was going to be a salary cap thread. If we can only get the offense to click just enough to take advantage of the D this year, 'cause who knows who we can keep. I still hope that Hughes has some appreciation for the Bills helping him realize his potential and, along with the others, be willing to work something out to keep the band together.
Kirby Jackson Posted November 12, 2014 Author Posted November 12, 2014 That's nasty. Throw in that no-named Kyle Williams and boy oh boy. God I can't wait until Kiko comes back next season. I was thinking about this - how much influence do you think Schwartz has had in Dareus' breakout campaign? I think coming from Detroit where he coached Suh - I'm sure Schwartz has told Dareus that he's twice the player that Suh is to motivate him. Under no circumstances does Schwartz leave this team if I'm pegula. I'd have Marrone pack it back to Syracuse before Schwartz left to be HC somewhere else. I agree and Schwartz is certainly going to get head coaching looks. The nice thing about Pegula is he may pay over the top for assistant coaches. That is certainly a change from past philosophies. Late in Ralph's life he was willing to pay for a head coach but no one wanted to come because the talent was lacking. Now we have talent and a guy that will possible make Schwartz the highest paid defensive coordinator in the league. What this means to me is that he will not jump at just any head coaching job. If the Raiders come calling for example and he has an opportunity to go there and inevitably fail or make the same money in Buffalo he may stay. If a job like SF opens up that's a different story.
Maddog69 Posted November 12, 2014 Posted November 12, 2014 Hopefully they get 6-7 more tomorrow night.
Beerball Posted November 12, 2014 Posted November 12, 2014 I thought this was going to be a salary cap thread. If we can only get the offense to click just enough to take advantage of the D this year, 'cause who knows who we can keep. I still hope that Hughes has some appreciation for the Bills helping him realize his potential and, along with the others, be willing to work something out to keep the band together. Your mouth to Jerry's contract signing hand.
Kirby Jackson Posted November 12, 2014 Author Posted November 12, 2014 That 1989 season the Vikings had 3 players combine for 50.5 sacks and 4 combine for 59.5!!! That is insane.
Mr. WEO Posted November 12, 2014 Posted November 12, 2014 That's nasty. Throw in that no-named Kyle Williams and boy oh boy. God I can't wait until Kiko comes back next season. I was thinking about this - how much influence do you think Schwartz has had in Dareus' breakout campaign? I think coming from Detroit where he coached Suh - I'm sure Schwartz has told Dareus that he's twice the player that Suh is to motivate him. Under no circumstances does Schwartz leave this team if I'm pegula. I'd have Marrone pack it back to Syracuse before Schwartz left to be HC somewhere else. I just don't see that happening. Schwartz as a HC was a disaster in Detroit. They got better (even defensively) as soon as he left. If anything, he is proving to GMs around the league that he is suited as a DC only. As for the D--sure looks good, but let's see how they finish out the year. The late game collapses against NE and KC may just be blips. They would have to slow down Brady, Rodgers and Manning to be considered among "the best" in the league.
peterpan Posted November 12, 2014 Posted November 12, 2014 The way the redskins throw around money I would think that we could pay Dareus and Hughes and Glenn two times over and still be well under the cap. I'm tired of the bills letting players walk. A few years ago they had Levites and Byrd up. They resigned neither. Ah be good maybe bad but if te bills let these guys walk I'll be so F@@/&@/@g pissed I'll never watch another game again!!!!!
Kirby Jackson Posted November 12, 2014 Author Posted November 12, 2014 (edited) I just don't see that happening. Schwartz as a HC was a disaster in Detroit. They got better (even defensively) as soon as he left. If anything, he is proving to GMs around the league that he is suited as a DC only. As for the D--sure looks good, but let's see how they finish out the year. The late game collapses against NE and KC may just be blips. They would have to slow down Brady, Rodgers and Manning to be considered among "the best" in the league. My only gripe with Schwartz is that he rushed 3 men on the 2 most crucial passing plays last week (3rd & 20 and the last 3rd down). If you are going to only rush 3 you have to at least disguise it and make them think that more are coming. That wasn't the case on either play and they got burned. With that being said he has been really, really good for most of the year. Edited November 12, 2014 by Kirby Jackson
NoSaint Posted November 12, 2014 Posted November 12, 2014 May only gripe with Schwartz is that he rushed 3 men on the 2 most crucial passing plays last week (3rd & 20 and the last 3rd down). If you are going to only rush 3 you have to at least disguise it and make them think that more are coming. That wasn't the case on either play and they got burned. With that being said he has been really, really good for most of the year. the only other one ill mention is the "normal rotations" incident. otherwise, yup.
jr1 Posted November 12, 2014 Posted November 12, 2014 Mario, Marcell & Jerry are the official personal injury firm of the Buffalo Bills
Kirby Jackson Posted November 12, 2014 Author Posted November 12, 2014 Mario, Marcell & Jerry are the official personal injury firm of the Buffalo Bills Cellino and Barnes just sent you a cease and desist order
TheBillsWillRiseAgain Posted November 12, 2014 Posted November 12, 2014 (edited) If we keep our front 4 and Brandon Spikes I think we'll have the best front 7 in the league next season when Kiko comes back. Not only that, but we have HIGH quality backups along that front. It really is going to be special next season. Edited November 12, 2014 by TheBillsWillRiseAgain
Kirby Jackson Posted November 12, 2014 Author Posted November 12, 2014 If we keep our front 4 and Brandon Spikes I think we'll have the best front 7 in the league next season when Kiko comes back. Not only that, but we have HIGH quality backups along that front. It really is going to be special next season. I'd like to see them lock up Jarius Wynn for like 3 years as well. I have been impressed by him. That group has been relatively healthy all year but that isn't always a guarantee moving forward. To your point, quality depth is important.
johnwalter Posted November 12, 2014 Posted November 12, 2014 i wonder what sort of discount hughes would be willing to take to continue playing alongside these dudes. i'm sure he hasnt seen a double team in the last 2 years.
TheBillsWillRiseAgain Posted November 12, 2014 Posted November 12, 2014 I think their ability to rotate guys like Wynn in there without seeing a big drop off in play has been a key in the unit's performance this season. Keeping those guys fresh is a huge advantage. Add in the fact that Bradham has really stepped up this season and Preston Brown has been a surprisingly good 3 down LBer who has played EVERY defensive snap, and with Kiko back the depth at LB becomes solid too. Regardless of what happens this season, keep this defensive unit together and we'll make the playoffs no matter what next season.
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