YoloinOhio Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 (edited) @ChrisBrownBills: For those who have been wondering just how Stephon Gilmore has been performing of late, the answer… http://t.co/pAw6nMeoGp One of top 2 CBs for the week Edited November 11, 2014 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 File it under "even PFF gets one right every now and again". Of course, they totally discredit themselves when they grade Marcell Dareus last among the 4 Bills' DLmen against KC. Nevertheless, I do think they got this one right. Gilmore has been nothing short of excellent the majority of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 Glad they pointed out his play against the run. Very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I have not always been Gilmore's biggest fan (not a hater either). With that being said there has been big strides in his game this year. He has gone from an average CB to a good one and still has potential to take the next step. It's nice to see; he seems like a really nice kid too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I have not always been Gilmore's biggest fan (not a hater either). With that being said there has been big strides in his game this year. He has gone from an average CB to a good one and still has potential to take the next step. It's nice to see; he seems like a really nice kid too. I suspect he's changed a lot of fans' opinions on his coverage ability this year. He's been better (not great) against the run as well...he did grind my gears on the Alex Smith TD run though--let himself get engaged with the WR when he had the opportunity to play it more aggressively and challenge Smith, forcing the play. However, when a guy is targeted 4 times in the passing game, breaks up 1 pass, forces 1 overthrow on a deep ball, and allows 2 completions (and forces a fumble on one of them) I'm calling it a great performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 In case anyone was wondering, this is what I meant: http:// bleacherreport.com/articles/2262080-tale-of-the-tape-for-nfl-week-10 Once Gilmore identifies the zone-read concept, he must attack the block of Fasano and work to squeeze the inside running lane. That creates an opportunity for the free safety, Aaron Williams, to run the inside alley versus the quarterback. However, with Gilmore widening on contact versus Fasano, Smith can now press the ball outside and force Williams to adjust his angle (flatten to the ball). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooderson Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I suspect he's changed a lot of fans' opinions on his coverage ability this year. He's been better (not great) against the run as well...he did grind my gears on the Alex Smith TD run though--let himself get engaged with the WR when he had the opportunity to play it more aggressively and challenge Smith, forcing the play. However, when a guy is targeted 4 times in the passing game, breaks up 1 pass, forces 1 overthrow on a deep ball, and allows 2 completions (and forces a fumble on one of them) I'm calling it a great performance. Agreed. But Manny Lawson was the main culprit on that play and the 4th and 1 where they quick-pitched it to Charles. Crashed down extremely hard on both plays to allow them to get to the outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Agreed. But Manny Lawson was the main culprit on that play and the 4th and 1 where they quick-pitched it to Charles. Crashed down extremely hard on both plays to allow them to get to the outside. This is undoubtedly correct...I was speaking only to what I'd like to see Gilmore improve upon...very good observation, as I think it's important not to lose perspective that there's 11 guys on the field, and if everyone does their job properly that play doesn't even come into question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Top 2 in the league in week 10? He wasn't even the best DB on the filed in the Chiefs game (Ron Parker).. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 (edited) Top 2 in the league in week 10? He wasn't even the best DB on the filed in the Chiefs game (Ron Parker).. Parker was thrown at far more than Gilmore was, and each forced a fumble, so I suppose it's all in how you evaluate it. Edited for double-post Edited November 11, 2014 by thebandit27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Parker was thrown at far more than Gilmore was, and each forced a fumble, so I suppose it's all in how you evaluate it. Edited for double-post Parker hurt us more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 File it under "even PFF gets one right every now and again". Of course, they totally discredit themselves when they grade Marcell Dareus last among the 4 Bills' DLmen against KC. Nevertheless, I do think they got this one right. Gilmore has been nothing short of excellent the majority of the season. FearthePFF. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Parker hurt us more... I suppose I see how one might view it that way--to me, if Chandler recovers Brown's fumble (as Bowe did with his own), then the impact of Parker's FF is--at most--the same as Gilmore's. I also think that Parker was beaten in coverage on more than 1 occasion in the red zone, and a good throw by the QB results in a score. I don't mean to marginalize Parker's effort--he played well. I'm just saying that if the context of the grade is on who did their job in coverage better, then the nod goes to Gilmore. If we're viewing it on the scale of whose plays on the football ended up having a greater impact on the win/loss, then I can see the argument you're presenting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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