Pondslider Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 You know what would have prevented the flinch? If our scared head coach would have gone for it on 4th and a pube. Yet, he didn't. And the defense yet again held tight. Then we went for it on 4th and 10 minutes later. Yup. Marrone coaches like he's constantly scared to lose instead of trying to win.
mannc Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 Marrone should have the balls to go for it. 4th and inches and you're trying to draw an offsides? Weak! Thank you! We have been subjected to gutless, play not to lose coaching for more than 15 years. I don't think it will ever change.
dave mcbride Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 Looked like his shoulders moved slightly to me. I thought it was the correct call. I never thought the Bills were serious about going for it. I homestly think it was deliberate - i think the bills were trying to pull a fast one.
Kelly the Dog Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 I homestly think it was deliberate - i think the bills were trying to pull a fast one. His right leg moved twice. I don't see how that could be deliberate. Any movement whatsoever is a penalty. Which is what they called.
TheBillsWillRiseAgain Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 I was perplexed as to how on earth that was even spotted. It was barely noticeable with the sideline camera zoomed right into the right leg of Henderson. Oh well, on to next week. There's still games to win! This. It was so subtle and on such an obvious down trying to draw the D offsides that I'm positive it was intentional by Henderson. If the refs wouldn't have seen it Henderson would have been called a genius. I'm shocked they saw his calf muscle twitch as slightly as it did.
dave mcbride Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 His right leg moved twice. I don't see how that could be deliberate. Any movement whatsoever is a penalty. Which is what they called. Kelly -- they were ALWAYS going to punt it. Why not try it? His leg only moved once, btw. When that didn't work, he tried the old left (inside) shoulder twitch. It really seemed calculated to me.
Kelly the Dog Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 Kelly -- they were ALWAYS going to punt it. Why not try it? His leg only moved once, btw. When that didn't work, he tried the old left (inside) shoulder twitch. It really seemed calculated to me. Twice. Unquestionably. I do think they were always going to punt, too. Which was a mistake. They could have and should have just sneaked it. It's very hard to stop a six inch sneak.
TheBillsWillRiseAgain Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 It was definitely 2 twitches, but they were so slight that you wonder how a guy that big could cause such a small movement in his muscles. I'd be amazed if refs caught that more than 30% of the time.
BillnutinHouston Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 The whining is embarrassing. Henderson twitched and it was properly called. Brown and McKelvin, just don't fumble and you win.
Dr. Fong Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 Without either the Brown fumble or the McKelvin fumble the Bills win that game.
Ohiostyle Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 Two drives into the RZ and only three points to show for it at the start of the second half are why we lost. No more, no less. All else where normal events that happen during the course of a game.
rsherman12 Posted November 10, 2014 Posted November 10, 2014 A playoff contender should have been able to win this game regardless.
Livinginthepast Posted November 10, 2014 Posted November 10, 2014 I was perplexed as to how on earth that was even spotted. It was barely noticeable with the sideline camera zoomed right into the right leg of Henderson. Oh well, on to next week. There's still games to win! The easy answer to that is that it wasnt spotted. The refs totally blew the call. Once the Chiefs moved the guilty player immediately started pointing at the Bills line and sold the call. There's no way in hell that the refs were looking at the Bills Oline's legs. No way!!
Chimp Posted November 10, 2014 Posted November 10, 2014 The easy answer to that is that it wasnt spotted. The refs totally blew the call. Once the Chiefs moved the guilty player immediately started pointing at the Bills line and sold the call. There's no way in hell that the refs were looking at the Bills Oline's legs. No way!! So, we're going with the everyone is against the Bills conspiracy theory tonight?
cale Posted November 10, 2014 Posted November 10, 2014 McKelvin's fumble changed the game. I felt like we were right in it until then.
stevestojan Posted November 10, 2014 Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) You all think the refs didn't see that flinch???? This wasn't a standard 2nd and two run play. This was a play where every single person watching KNEW we weren't going to snap the ball. The officials were indeed staring at the linemen looking for just such a thing as it was the only way we were getting a first down. If they had called offsides, it would have been the wrong call. It was minor, but there's no scale for false starts. In that situation, the refs were actually very astute. Edited November 10, 2014 by stevestojan
The Jokeman Posted November 10, 2014 Posted November 10, 2014 McKelvin's fumble changed the game. I felt like we were right in it until then. The fumble certainly swung the momentum in KC's favor and took some wind out of our sails. Yet we had 3 timeouts left with 2:37 at the KC 15. It's in excusable to not try and milk the clock and get a 1st down and then go for the TD. Those 4 passes toward the endzone hurt just as bad.
Livinginthepast Posted November 10, 2014 Posted November 10, 2014 So, we're going with the everyone is against the Bills conspiracy theory tonight? No we are going with the Refs are too incompetent to see the flinch and are easily swayed by a KC player pointing at their line and by the way the Chiefs are just too well coached to have actually made that error so it had to be the Bills theory. I know .. run on sentence... grammar deduction mark.
PolishDave Posted November 10, 2014 Posted November 10, 2014 The thing that sucked the most about that play was that I thought it was obvious the Bills were just trying to draw KC offsides. I assumed they were trying to draw them offsides and planning on taking a delay of game penalty if they couldn't get them to move. Then they would punt. And it worked........It appeared to work perfectly.....right up until the ref said it was a false start instead of encroachment..... The Bills actually executed that play as it was designed in my opinion.....and the refs took it away...and gave it to the other team.....inexcusable.
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