TC in St. Louis Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 The reason the Chiefs jumped was the snap count. We earned the first down and they took it away, and the game fell apart. Granted, Bryce Brown's fumble and Chandler's inability to fall on the loose ball did not help. The fumbled punt was the final straw. But the game turned on that nonsensical call. Another bad one was the offensive interference call on Chandler. He barely touched the guy.
Sojourner Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 I was perplexed as to how on earth that was even spotted. It was barely noticeable with the sideline camera zoomed right into the right leg of Henderson. Oh well, on to next week. There's still games to win!
GOBILLS78 Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 I don't understand. Henderson flinched. It was obvious in real time. No issue with that penalty.
TC in St. Louis Posted November 9, 2014 Author Posted November 9, 2014 I don't understand. Henderson flinched. It was obvious in real time. No issue with that penalty. He flinched a bit AFTER 4 guys jumped. They jumped on the snap call. If he flinched at all it took a zoom lens to spot it. The reason they were offside had absolutely nothing to do with him. They were looking at the ball and not Seantrel. Bad call. Changed the game.
Dragonborn10 Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 Why didn't they just run the dam play. The ran well most of the day. Just quick snap it for a first down. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.
Sojourner Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 I don't understand. Henderson flinched. It was obvious in real time. No issue with that penalty. Here's your calling.
GOBILLS78 Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) He flinched a bit AFTER 4 guys jumped. They jumped on the snap call. If he flinched at all it took a zoom lens to spot it. The reason they were offside had absolutely nothing to do with him. They were looking at the ball and not Seantrel. Bad call. Changed the game. I must not understand false start penalties. And I mean that in all seriousness. EDIT: Now I got what you're saying, TC. From the rulebook: "No player of offensive team may charge or move abruptly, after assuming set position, in such manner as to lead defense to believe snap has started. No player of the defensive team within one yard of the line of scrimmage may make an abrupt movement in an attempt to cause the offense to false start." Edited November 9, 2014 by GOBILLS78
BillsVet Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 Who calls for that on 4th down with all the success teams have running a QB sneak? Don't let your 7th round rookie RT botch things.
Beach Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 I don't understand. Henderson flinched. It was obvious in real time. No issue with that penalty. me either, the defender even pointed right at henderson.
GOBILLS78 Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 me either, the defender even pointed right at henderson. The issue appears to be the defensive flinch that came before Henderson's.
26CornerBlitz Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 Marrone should have the balls to go for it. 4th and inches and you're trying to draw an offsides? Weak!
TC in St. Louis Posted November 9, 2014 Author Posted November 9, 2014 I just watched it like 8 times in a row. Henderson flinched, as did two guys on the left side....if you call moving a quarter of an inch or so flinching. The defender didn't point right at henderson, he pointed in the direction because he had to point at something. By the way, we won't know if he was going to run a sneak, because KC jumped offside before the play was executed. Based on Marrone's gutless history, we probably would have punted anyway had they not jumped offside. Which they did.
Kelly the Dog Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 Marrone should have the balls to go for it. 4th and inches and you're trying to draw an offsides? Weak! That's what I thought. He should have sneaked it. Ran right up to the line and sneaked it. It's almost impossible to stop,six inches.
norton20 Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 Looked like his shoulders moved slightly to me. I thought it was the correct call. I never thought the Bills were serious about going for it.
Kelly the Dog Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 I just watched it like 8 times in a row. Henderson flinched, as did two guys on the left side....if you call moving a quarter of an inch or so flinching. The defender didn't point right at henderson, he pointed in the direction because he had to point at something. By the way, we won't know if he was going to run a sneak, because KC jumped offside before the play was executed. Based on Marrone's gutless history, we probably would have punted anyway had they not jumped offside. Which they did. Thats what I thought. He actually flinched twice. But neither time did it draw the defense off. They jumped independently. Technically that is the right call. But it was so minuscule and it did not draw the defense.
RK_BillsFan Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 Pretty sure of all the plays you could single out, this might be the poorest choice. This is the one you choose? Neither of the fumbles that completely altered the entire game?
Beach Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 i know it was a minor flinch, i just dont blame refs on that play
Optometric Insight Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 I doubt that a sneak was even the call, they were just trying to draw them off-sides. If it was supposed to be a sneak, why not hurry up to the line and snap it before the defensive line can even get set? It was either a gutless play call or terrible execution. Pretty sure of all the plays you could single out, this might be the poorest choice. This is the one you choose? Neither of the fumbles that completely altered the entire game? This is one of the only plays that you can blame on the refs and not the players. This, and that Chandler "PI" call.
stevestojan Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) You know what would have prevented the flinch? If our scared head coach would have gone for it on 4th and a pube. Yet, he didn't. And the defense yet again held tight. Then we went for it on 4th and 10 minutes later. Edited November 9, 2014 by stevestojan
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