BackInDaDay Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 frankly, Schwarz's decision to rush only 3 men on that 3rd and 8 conversion sealed the deal.. or maybe it was the 3rd down completion that led to the 4th and 1 TD.. i think we may have dropped 8 there, also.. whatever.. we're a very competitive team, that just isn't quite good enough to win when our players and coaches make mistakes.. and that includes some sketchy play from our QB
RuntheDamnBall Posted November 9, 2014 Author Posted November 9, 2014 So Bryce Brown/Dixon season highs was lucky? 150 yards in the 3rd quarter was lucky? 3 surefire TD opportunities in the red zone improperly executed was lucky? You know that I am not talking about this week, and that I'm clearly talking about the results of the Detroit and Minnesota games, dude. Don't be daft.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 What calendar date is Black Monday? Asking for a friend. Tomorow
FireChan Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 If we had a proven HC like Andy Reid, Bryce Brown would have never fumbled.
Formerly Allan in MD Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 The defense brought it as usual. Jim Schwartz and his players are kicking ass. Holding a very smart QB and Jamaal Charles to 17 points should be enough to win. Those of us who cautioned that Marrone / Hackett were getting lucky and flying by the seat of their pants looked awful right this week. And that sucks, because this game was super-winnable. Leodis deserves two big X's for today, but points were left on the board by this offense more than once. This coach is wasting a pretty good team. Right, the coaches fumbled the game away.
Fixxxer Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 Agree. The only coaching issue is you can argue with are the two 4th downs. I would have kicked that FG on 4th and 10. Me too, but it was all or nothing there. We should have had the game in the bag by then had we not fumbled the ball twice.
RuntheDamnBall Posted November 9, 2014 Author Posted November 9, 2014 Coaches did a fine job in this game. They didn't fumble... The coaches set the team up for an easy win (17-3 going in with Bryce Brown)... Gotta know what you're talking about when you call out coaching. Best response is already in this thread. Facing the best passing defense in the league who is also one of the worst rush defenses in the league. 1st and 10 on their 12 yard line: Pass 4 times for zero yards. 1st and 10 on their 4 yard line: pass 3 times for zero yards. Nate Hackett is the worst redzone offensive coordinator in the league.
FireChan Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 You know that I am not talking about this week, and that I'm clearly talking about the results of the Detroit and Minnesota games, dude. Don't be daft. Seeing as you think this game "proves" what you thought about those others games, you must be talking about this week.
thewildrabbit Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 You don't go for it on 4th and an inch but go for it on 4th and 10 with all timeouts and this defense? Kick the Field goal and then all you needed was FG range. I hate this team. exactly! even with the fumbles the game was still winnable at the end. Don't hate the team, just the guy who decided to go for it on 4th down
Virgil Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 Players are going to make mistakes. Yes, we could have been up big, but we still had a chance to win. If you have the ball on the 15 with 4 minutes left to go and down by 4. You have to score there. Regardless of what happened before in the game. The playcalling there and execution was terrible. No attempt at a first down. Almost all prayer throws. Just a joke of playcalls.
BackInDaDay Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 That really pissed me off. 3 man rush on 3rd and 8 with the game on the line. Pathetic. Smith must of thought he died and went to heaven
mannc Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 I can't help but think of the drive where we ran the ball down their throats down to the 3, then called two weak pass plays when only 2 yards were needed, then settled for a FG. Pathetic.
RuntheDamnBall Posted November 9, 2014 Author Posted November 9, 2014 Seeing as you think this game "proves" what you thought about those others games, you must be talking about this week. The point was that the margin was razor-thin, and that these guys were probably neither as good as all the "shut up haterz they won" folks said those weeks, nor as bad as they look this week. Regardless, they leave points on the board with regularity. Are you going to argue with this? Argue that it's the players all you want. Who puts the players on the field? Who calls the plays?
mannc Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 Don't hate the team, just the guy who decided to go for it on 4th down Great, then we would have lost by only 1. No thanks.
Sojourner Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 frankly, Schwarz's decision to rush only 3 men on that 3rd and 8 conversion sealed the deal.. or maybe it was the 3rd down completion that led to the 4th and 1 TD.. i think we may have dropped 8 there, also.. whatever.. we're a very competitive team, that just isn't quite good enough to win when our players and coaches make mistakes.. and that includes some sketchy play from our QB The hilarity is I joked "conversion to the TE, middle of the field..."
Fixxxer Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 You have to love that players get 100% of the blame when the team doesn't win. It's a nuanced discussion, but right now more than 50% of the problem does their work from the sideline. The offense is anemic, unimaginative, and boring to be brutally honest. I thought Marrone was going to be an innovative coach, and he's a really more of the same: annoyingly conservative when there's a calculated risk to take. They're wasting good players and I hope the Pegulas are watching. Time to clean out everyone. This is more of the same. hey genius, tell me how many people credited Marrone when Sammy got that winning TD against the Vikings? Or when Carpenter hit a 55 yarder against the Lions? I'll help you, zero, because those were fantastic individual plays. Today, it was as cut and dry as those plays, Brown fumbled when he was about to score 6 points and Mckelvin fumbled the ball away giving the Chiefs something they didn't have all day, good field position.
RuntheDamnBall Posted November 9, 2014 Author Posted November 9, 2014 Great, then we would have lost by only 1. No thanks. You think it couldn't have changed the complexion of the late game play-calling? I'll admit that it might not have stopped McDumbass from wasting extra clock dancing around on the last punt return.
FireChan Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 The point was that the margin was razor-thin, and that these guys were probably neither as good as all the "shut up haterz they won" folks said those weeks, nor as bad as they look this week. Regardless, they leave points on the board with regularity. Are you going to argue with this? Argue that it's the players all you want. Who puts the players on the field? Who calls the plays? So, because Orton made some misthrows in the red zone to wide open receivers, the coach sucks? Interesting. Why can't Marrone and Hackett put Brady on the field? I wonder.
Sojourner Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 Great, then we would have lost by only 1. No thanks. Not necessarily, it would have forced the Chiefs to actually try and push the field more than they did or even had to. Up by 4 is huge, especially within the final two minutes.
thecoz77 Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 That phantom false start was brutal. McKelvin is indicative of everything this franchise has done wrong. How many games has his screw ups cost us in his illustrious tenure? And, am I crazy, or should they have tried for a first down rather than take shot after shot at the endzone during that last real drive they had?
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