jimmy10 Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 It's a federal offense, for starters. For real? No snark. Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flmike Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Ok, long time FSU fan here and watched that whole game last week. JW is far from a stellar student athlete and I am embarrassed by this kids actions as well. But he has started slow in EVERY game this year. FSU hands down is the best school at making 2nd half changes. Say what you want about that kid he is a gamer, period. The two picks he threw weren't blatant in the least. His WR dropped a lot of balls and he was still taking shots in the 1st half, our run game was stifled with Williams in until they threw the freshman in. I dont buy this for a second, but I am biased. Not to mention that Louisville is the No. 1 D in the ACC. Nothing to see here. Not a very mature kid, but he can sure will a team to win. FSU might not even be in the top 10 without him this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I dont think the bills go anywhere near this kid in the 2nd round...... - They have a QB thats playing well - You can tell Whaley still likes EJ - A 2nd round pick could net us a very good TE or OG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's Tailor Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 (edited) For real? No snark. Seriously? no joke. FBI will get involved if this is legit. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/224 Edited November 8, 2014 by billsfaninmanhattan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 If that story is legit he will go undrafted. The red flags on Jameis are out of control. No one is going to hand that guy the keys to their franchise. It would be like turning your franchise over to Pac Man Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 If that story is legit he will go undrafted. The red flags on Jameis are out of control. No one is going to hand that guy the keys to their franchise. It would be like turning your franchise over to Pac Man Jones. It won't matter if the story is true. He will be tossed from FSU as soon as this rape inquiry is concluded. FSU has to get rid of him in order to make amends fortheir Title IX violation and upcoming lawsuit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 It won't matter if the story is true. He will be tossed from FSU as soon as this rape inquiry is concluded. FSU has to get rid of him in order to make amends fortheir Title IX violation and upcoming lawsuit. You're probably right; he is a disaster. That program is going to face some serious penalties once they start digging under that rug. It will make OSU and USC look like they got off easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 The way Golson is playing I wonder if he's on the take too..this is redick ND. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 You're probably right; he is a disaster. That program is going to face some serious penalties once they start digging under that rug. It will make OSU and USC look like they got off easy. I agree. Jimbo is in deep... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 If that story is legit he will go undrafted. The red flags on Jameis are out of control. No one is going to hand that guy the keys to their franchise. It would be like turning your franchise over to Pac Man Jones. If it's true, I'd assume the nfl bans him (I'd assume officially, but at the very least behind closed doors) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Jameis sees Jimbo as a substitute teacher and he can get away with anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 If it's true, I'd assume the nfl bans him (I'd assume officially, but at the very least behind closed doors) There are so many layers to this Florida State saga. It is destined for a 30 for 30. In addition to all of the shady things within the football program and the university there are elements of police corruption. They say that the cover up is worse than the crime and in this case both are disastrous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 There are so many layers to this Florida State saga. It is destined for a 30 for 30. In addition to all of the shady things within the football program and the university there are elements of police corruption. They say that the cover up is worse than the crime and in this case both are disastrous. As Bobby Bowden said... "their good boys, their good boys". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) This is getting to the point that only 1 of 2 things can be true: 1. Winston is a horrible person 2. Ther are a whole bunch of horrible other people, who are doing whatever they can to bring this kid down. (I suppose SEC boosters would be the prime suspect here. But as I've said many times: I intentionally have nothing to do with college football, other than watching the Championship game. That's why, when draft time comes around, I retain objectivity. I'm fairly certain those 2 possibilities are not mutually exclusive. Criminals usually only associate with likeminded criminals. And with this guy, where's there's smoke there's fire. Edited November 9, 2014 by Saint Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) I understand your point but just want to point out the obvious: manziel lives in an era where everyone has a phone w a camera, there are industries fully dedicated to exploiting and covering athletes, and then throw in the explosion of social media. Kelly may have been able to keep a lot of his actions private bc it was a heck of a lot easier to do so 20-30yrs ago. No doubt. But it is what it is, and we know what we know. I can't imagine how many of the old school guys would have managed this new age of cameras everywhere and instant communication. Guys have to be extra cautious now. Maybe it isn't fair. Some might argue the insane salaries they now get isn't fair, either. But when you continue to engage in behavior that reflects poorly on your team, you put yourself in a position to be labeled as "selfish". Manziel got a lot of slack for his early indiscretions from the public and the NFL. "He's a kid, He'll learn." He also got almost no punishment for those indiscretions. On the one hand, I find it hard to believe he continued with the nonsense after being drafted and after the owner basically told him to knock it off. On the other hand, since he has never experienced any real consequences for his behavior, I guess is isn't that hard to believe after all. Edited November 9, 2014 by The Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbalaya Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 The Bills have been shaving points for the last ten years. Nobody cared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyHorseAteTheKid Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 @TMZ_Sports: Jameis Winston -- Allegations of Point Shaving ... Reportedly Tanked During Louisville Game http://t.co/IFOWnJbcJZ I think we all know this is going to end with Bellichik drafting him in the 4th round. I'm thinking NY Jets... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 TMZ is seldom wrong as hard as that statement sounds. it doesn't sound too hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 @TMZ_Sports: Jameis Winston -- Allegations of Point Shaving ... Reportedly Tanked During Louisville Game http://t.co/IFOWnJbcJZ I think we all know this is going to end with Bellichik drafting him in the 4th round. Wow, this guy is going to be Vontaze Burfict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I'm thinking NY Jets... If Rex is still there, he wouldn't pass him up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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