Augie Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 I don't know much but I know the Bills and I know how to have fun in New Orleans. Two fine areas of expertise!
Malazan Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 It's all hypothetical now, but imagine this year's defense with a healthy Byrd and Alonso. It would have been so much fun to watch. Â I'll take Alonso. You can keep Byrd.
purple haze Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 Was anyone on TBD against letting Byrd go? I feel like there was pretty overwhelming support for the decision not to offer him big money. Given his position and the fact that he's vastly overrated, Byrd is worth about half of what he received from NO. Â I definitely wanted management to re-sign him, but when I not at what the Saints offered. I did feel he earned being paid as one of the top safety's in the league though.
The Plunge Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 At what point do teams just stop dealing with Eugene Parker? The guy is never interested in a "win-win", he's only interested in getting his client (and himself) a deal that will be instantly regretted by the team who signed him. Â A bad contract can be a career killer, and that's what may have happened here with Byrd. It won't matter how good he plays. He will have to play WAY better than he ever has to justify that contract. Byrd will wake up one day and realize that he had a pretty good thing in Buffalo. That extra $1.5 million per year may end up costing him a lot more than he thought he gained. Â I was thrilled when I saw that Dez Bryant fired Parker. It will be great to watch what Jay-Z's agency can do for him. I bet he signs a fair deal (still a LOT) and then makes boatloads in endorsements.
Utah John Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 The fans in Dallas probably feel the same way about Kyle Orton as we do about Byrd. Orton was on their team, then he wasn't, and another team scarfed him up and paid him big bucks but no compensation to the losing franchise. Orton worked the system as a good progressive would approve of, for once showing how labor can beat management in contract negotiations, then signing on where he wanted to work. Byrd worked the system by faking his plantar fascitus or whatever the invisible, undetectable, convenient injury is called. He didn't get injured during the games he stabbed his teammates in the back while not playing, and when he did play enough games for the season to count toward his benefits, he still made it clear to management that no offer was going to be good enough. Or Parker did. The threat of another plantar flareup was enough to keep the Bills from tagging him. Anyway, I would trade Byrd for Orton in a heartbeat, so as things balance out, we came out ahead.
BaaadThingsMan Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 Eugene Parker is a prick, straight up  Byrd was great his rookie year and really good yr 3 but the guy could definitely sniff out the ball. He became a complete asshat when his contract came up and his "injuries" were amateurish. Searcy is one of the top cover safeties right now and he just quietly goes about his business game in and game out. Oh BTW it's a contract year for him, do the Bills sign him?
Orton's Arm Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 The fans in Dallas probably feel the same way about Kyle Orton as we do about Byrd. Orton was on their team, then he wasn't, and another team scarfed him up and paid him big bucks but no compensation to the losing franchise. Orton worked the system as a good progressive would approve of, for once showing how labor can beat management in contract negotiations, then signing on where he wanted to work. Byrd worked the system by faking his plantar fascitus or whatever the invisible, undetectable, convenient injury is called. He didn't get injured during the games he stabbed his teammates in the back while not playing, and when he did play enough games for the season to count toward his benefits, he still made it clear to management that no offer was going to be good enough. Or Parker did. The threat of another plantar flareup was enough to keep the Bills from tagging him. Anyway, I would trade Byrd for Orton in a heartbeat, so as things balance out, we came out ahead.  > his plantar fascitus or whatever the invisible, undetectable, convenient injury is called  Personally, I think it was a case of bumblefoot. From Wikipedia:  *********** Bumblefoot (ulcerative pododermatitis) is a bacterial infection and inflammatory reaction on the feet of birds and rodents. ***********  > The threat of another plantar flareup was enough to keep the Bills from tagging him.  The Bills should have tagged him, and then immediately traded him to the Saints, or to whichever other team was most willing to part with draft picks. Any draft pick would have been better than no draft pick.  Of course, he could have refused to sign the offer, in which case he would have sat out the year. The Bills would have been no worse off in that scenario than they would have been had they let him fly the coop.
Thurman#1 Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) http://www.nfl.com/n...freeagent-flops  Good move Doug.   You're not a flop when you're injured. And you're not a flop after eight games.  He may end up being a free agent flop, but he isn't one now. Edited November 6, 2014 by Thurman#1
Buffaloed in Pa Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 I didn`t want him. Said goodbye. No I in team.
maryland-bills-fan Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 ^^^^this  We did that the year before and he was fine at the end of the previous season. Then he got boo-boos on the bottom of his feet at the start of training camp (funny, but not during the summer off) wanted a TON more money and "held out"- just starting to play several games into the year. Reading between the lines, I thought it was clear that the injury was phony or minimal and he was (without saying for the record and lawsuit) that he would do the same thing again. Toxic.
truth on hold Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) surprised Chris Williams wasnt mentioned clearly byrd is #1 FA bust, but they really got on Aints by putting Bailey @ #4 for eating $500K on him. Bills have eaten more than 10x that on Williams and hes not even on the list Edited November 6, 2014 by JTSP
xsoldier54 Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 Was anyone on TBD against letting Byrd go? I feel like there was pretty overwhelming support for the decision not to offer him big money. Given his position and the fact that he's vastly overrated, Byrd is worth about half of what he received from NO. You're kidding right? There were dozens of people on this site railing against why we let Byrd go. I for one said that NO paid too much for him and you should have seen some of the responses I got. You'd have thought I committed a murder or something. Byrd is a good player, no doubt, but he wasn't worth what NO gave him. I said it then and I'll say it now. Even if he had performed up to expectations he wasn't worth the money we would have had to give him.
simpleman Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) I wanted to tag and trade him. Still a little perplexed at how we got nothing for him. Â Exactly. Like Lev, letting him go was the right move. But not tagging and trading him and not getting ANYTHING in return was the problem. With Lev, it was not going out and getting a viable replacement. It is not just about letting expensive FAs go, but the details. Edited November 6, 2014 by simpleman
Fan in Chicago Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 You're kidding right? There were dozens of people on this site railing against why we let Byrd go.  I am definitely not ashamed to say that I was one of those wanting to retain him BUT at a reasonable price. If memory serves me correctly, I had pegged his value at 6-7 MM per year all in. I think the fact that he got injured or that he did not have enough playing time in the D to get his bearings does not change the fact that he was a good safety and one that we could have kept intact. Levitre and Byrd are ones I wanted the Bills to keep despite the opinions regarding their post-Bills careers. Both players made the Bills better. Just not at the price they got in the open market.  Eugene Parker is a prick, straight up   I can flip that argument around and say that he is great for his clients. He hyped up and negotiated his way to a huge contract for Byrd. Well maybe not all his clients, but he certainly gets top dollar for his highly prized free agents.
ALF Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 Byrd could have been traded for a draft pick while under contract when he would not extend. Hope the FO doesn't make a costly mistake like this again.
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 fans always bashing players who leave for more $$$ Â it's a business, you get what you can when you can.
FireChan Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 Â Â Exactly. Like Lev, letting him go was the right move. But not tagging and trading him and not getting ANYTHING in return was the problem. With Lev, it was not going out and getting a viable replacement. It is not just about letting expensive FAs go, but the details. Â Why would you give anything for a player in the last year of his deal who has been notorious in contract negotiations? Â Â
Tyrod's Tailor Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 I can't wait to see the Eugene Parker comments on here when Sammy is up for an extension in a couple years.
John Cocktosten Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 He's been hurt since he got there and is out for the season. It's not like he sucks all of a sudden. That being said, he got way too much money to remain a Bill.
T master Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 Better them than the Bills , i hope this is a view into the future of the Bills changing because we are usually the ones getting that end of the stick !!
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