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  On 11/4/2014 at 1:54 AM, Ryan L Billz said:

Fitz stinks. Arian Foster can only carry the team for so long

As long as he carried it last year? Didn't he play 8 games?

It is a TEAM game.

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Fitz has been what he was, a mediocre QB. The Texans defense and ground game is pretty good, so maybe they just want to spark the team with Mallet. A bye week is always optimal to bring a major change. 4-5 they need to turn things around quick if they want to make a run at the playoffs, QB play has been subpar so why not make the change?

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Fitz is not the problem with any team he is on according to his apologists.

 

Yet he cannot seem to stick anywhere. Texans fans cannot stand him. The Texans defense keeps getting him turnovers and he cannot do anything with them.

 

He never was good and he is not good now.

 

At what point do his delusional fans accept reality?

 

Just admit it: those of you who love Fitzpatrick and will defend him with Gailey like stubborness because "he" beat New England* once

 

You guys must be head over heels for Tannehill and Sanchez then! Even Geno

 

Sanchez won in New England* in the playoffs. You guys would want a statue

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  On 11/4/2014 at 3:28 AM, TheFunPolice said:

Fitz is not the problem with any team he is on according to his apologists.

 

Yet he cannot seem to stick anywhere. Texans fans cannot stand him. The Texans defense keeps getting him turnovers and he cannot do anything with them.

 

He never was good and he is not good now.

 

At what point do his delusional fans accept reality?

 

Just admit it: those of you who love Fitzpatrick and will defend him with Gailey like stubborness because "he" beat New England* once

 

You guys must be head over heels for Tannehill and Sanchez then! Even Geno

 

Sanchez won in New England* in the playoffs. You guys would want a statue

You're missing the point. He's a "buffalo guy". Which to many on here meant the woefully under-talented should be wildly over paid.

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  On 11/4/2014 at 1:33 AM, TheFunPolice said:

Fitzpatrick has been in Houston what he has always been (including here).

 

He will get hot and have a couple nice games, then go right back to missing open guys, fumbling, throwing picks, and generally being pitiful to watch. But he will scramble and not slide! And the BEARD!

 

Texans fans want him on the bench, because they think he is sinking their season.

 

The "Fitzmagic" people used to say "if ONLY he had a good defense! It's the DEFENSE'S fault! It's the offensive line! It's the water! It's the air!"

 

Well, the Texans have a top defense that is #1 in takeaways. And guess what?

 

Fitzpatrick still stinks. Biggest fraud we ever had to stomach.

 

Fitz had it all except the arm

 

  On 11/4/2014 at 1:47 AM, Mr. WEO said:

5 career games played. 4 passes attempted. 1 completion.

 

Those are Mallett's stats.

 

What is it that A. Johnson likes the most about that?

 

good in practice?

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When all is said and done Fitz will have carved out a long non-illustrious career and made a lot of money. Because he is such a prudent and smart individual he and his family will be financially set for the rest of their lives. When all is said and done he will be a testament to the category of players who used the game for their betterment and then moved on to do whatever they want to do for the rest of their lives.

 

He is the type of person that in his numerous stops everyone likes and respects him, and wishes him well. Not bad for a low round draft choice out of Harvard.

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  On 11/4/2014 at 12:42 PM, jester43 said:

haha not even close. and i don't think he's very good either.

I can name at 8 Bills starting QBs that were bigger duds.

 

Todd Collins

Alex Van Pelt

Vince Ferrigamo

Kelly Holcomb

Bruce Mathison

Gary Marangi

Joe Dufek

Dan Darragh

 

 

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  On 11/4/2014 at 9:57 AM, Buffalo Barbarian said:

Fitz had it all except the arm

 

 

 

good in practice?

 

How would Andre know? He never practices with the kid.

 

 

  On 11/4/2014 at 1:28 PM, PromoTheRobot said:

I can name at 8 Bills starting QBs that were bigger duds.

 

Todd Collins

Alex Van Pelt

Vince Ferrigamo

Kelly Holcomb

Bruce Mathison

Gary Marangi

Joe Dufek

Dan Darragh

 

Wow, how do you leave off RJ and JPL? Monumental duds.

 

  On 11/4/2014 at 3:06 AM, billsfan89 said:

Fitz has been what he was, a mediocre QB. The Texans defense and ground game is pretty good, so maybe they just want to spark the team with Mallet. A bye week is always optimal to bring a major change. 4-5 they need to turn things around quick if they want to make a run at the playoffs, QB play has been subpar so why not make the change?

 

Fitz has the same stats as Stafford, yet the Texans are 4-5. Must be the QB. Bring in the guy who has never played...who know's--he could be the next Jordan Palmer.

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  On 11/4/2014 at 1:28 PM, PromoTheRobot said:

 

I can name at 8 Bills starting QBs that were bigger duds.

 

Todd Collins

Alex Van Pelt

Vince Ferrigamo

Kelly Holcomb

Bruce Mathison

Gary Marangi

Joe Dufek

Dan Darragh

 

I would add losman and Edwards to that list.

 

Fitz was actually one of the better QBs we have had post-Kelly.

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  On 11/4/2014 at 1:49 PM, JR in Pittsburgh said:

I would add losman and Edwards to that list.

 

Fitz was actually one of the better QBs we have had post-Kelly.

 

That is actually a rather serious indictment on the franchise. :sick:

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  On 11/4/2014 at 1:50 PM, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

 

That is actually a rather serious indictment on the franchise. :sick:

 

Sad but true. It is the reason we have been terrible so long. Since 2000, what better QB have we had than fitz? Arguably, Bledsoe-- but his star faded after basically 1 good year here.

 

Holcomb, Bledsoe, losman, Edwards, fitz, maybe include EJ-- that's how you get 14 losing years.

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  On 11/4/2014 at 1:56 PM, JR in Pittsburgh said:

Sad but true. It is the reason we have been terrible so long. Since 2000, what better QB have we had than fitz? Arguably, Bledsoe-- but his star faded after basically 1 good year here.

 

Holcomb, Bledsoe, losman, Edwards, fitz, maybe include EJ-- that's how you get 14 losing years.

Holcomb: similar to Fitz, pretty smart, lacked NFL arm

Bledsoe: faded fast

Losman: good arm, not smart

Edwards: perhaps best of lot in terms of brains and arm until the KO against Cardinals

Fitz: see Holcomb

 

Truthfully it doesn't matter how you rank them. If someone can't get you to the post-season, they're all in the same category

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  On 11/4/2014 at 1:56 PM, JR in Pittsburgh said:

Sad but true. It is the reason we have been terrible so long. Since 2000, what better QB have we had than fitz? Arguably, Bledsoe-- but his star faded after basically 1 good year here.

 

Holcomb, Bledsoe, losman, Edwards, fitz, maybe include EJ-- that's how you get 14 losing years.

 

I hope that Whaley does a hardnosed examination of EJ's prospects and makes a determination about him as a franchise qb. Sometimes when one is instrumentally involved with a player's selection their is lesser objectivity because of the personal investment in the pick.

 

Whaley has seen first hand from his Pittsburgh experience what a foundational qb can do for a franchise. He is well aware that the selection of Roethlisberger has allowed the Steelers to be a serious franchise for more than a decade. If you look at the EJ selection you see that there are similar physical traits associated with strong arms and large stature. In addition there are even more interpersonal and character traits that make EJ even more appealing.

 

My thought on the qb issue is that although many people are very dubious about whether Manuel can become a quality franchise qb Whaley is more optimistic about his prospects as the longterm franchise qb. Bringing Orton into the fold has taken away the urgency to make a quicker determination on EJ. I suspect that the Bills won't be selecting a qb in next year's draft because they will continue to work with Manuel on upgrading his skills. Does he have the potential to develop into a franchise qb? That is the question that Whaley is not in my opinion rush to answer. He is going to allow the situation to play out before he comes to a conclusion.

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I wonder if Fitz supporters were also Loseman, Edwards, Holcomb, etc supporters?

Fitz's problem was not his arm it was his decision making in crucial times of the game. More times then not he made bad decisions when the game was on the line. His arm was mediocre, yes. But he is about as anti clutch as it gets. He just is not a 'gamer', much like Stevie was/is not one.

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I think it is more they want to see what they have in Mallett being he is in a contract year. Fitz has been serviceable for them, but we all know he chokes under pressure. Good guy, solid backup, nothing more.

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