Doug Whaley joined L.A. Bills Backers to watch games this morning

[Big C]

As I read Kelly's OP, it reminded me that Whaley comes from the steelers tradition. And that tradition has been (at least over the last 15 years and with few exceptions) that you let your star OLB pass rushers walk in FA. Now I am worried he lets Hughes walk!!

 

I love Hughes, but if we can't afford both him and Dareus, we have to go with Dareus. I would just rather lock down a reliable pass rusher than have another thing to worry about in the offseason.

[Arkady Renko]

Maybe Dareus and Hughes could race for the contract extension?

[Best Player Available]

 

 

I love Hughes, but if we can't afford both him and Dareus, we have to go with Dareus. I would just rather lock down a reliable pass rusher than have another thing to worry about in the offseason.

Jarius Winn had a good game against the Vikes, I would expect to see more of him and I am sure they want too also. he is on a one year deal. In the least he could be a depth player.

[Kelly the Dog]

I love Hughes, but if we can't afford both him and Dareus, we have to go with Dareus. I would just rather lock down a reliable pass rusher than have another thing to worry about in the offseason.

Yeah, if it's between the two, you have to lock up Dareus. Whaley really likes the back-up DL guys though but said we may have to look for more young DL, which somewhat surprised me. Maybe because Kyle and Mario are getting up there in age, and Hughes is not a lock to re-sign. He agreed with me that the linebackers make peanuts and if you count them with the linemen as a whole, you maybe can afford to overpay that one position.

[Augie]

Maybe Dareus and Hughes could race for the contract extension?

someone would need a haed start adjusted by some poundage formula.

[YoloinOhio]

 

someone would need a haed start adjusted by some poundage formula.

lol!

[Augie]

 

Chris Brown had already let that cat out of the bag just after the draft. That they were going to take Ebron. So it wasn't new info.

Yeah, that's true I guess, but the overall experience seemed to include more info than you would have gotten from the hoodie. Nice guy it seems who offered some insight.

[4BillsintheBurgh]

As I read Kelly's OP, it reminded me that Whaley comes from the steelers tradition. And that tradition has been (at least over the last 15 years and with few exceptions) that you let your star OLB pass rushers walk in FA. Now I am worried he lets Hughes walk!!

 

??? Maybe after their 2nd contract is up, but they tend to keep those top drafted guys at that position. When they get long of tooth or overpriced they either get a restructure or let them test the market.

[Pills -N- Bills]

 

I couldn't read him on that at all. He did say that Williams has never been a problem, and loves being on the Bills and in Buffalo. He just wants to play.

 

I have to wonder if Ortons personality and cavemans personality clash. They are two COMPLETLEY diffrent people. Think ice cube in his nwa days and sheriff joe arpaio.

 

I wonder is that has anything to do with the drop in playing time for caveman, and the increased play time for hogan. Hogan and Orton have alotttt more in common. And I couldn't imagine Orton being a big Fan of his actions off the field this season and in the past

Edited November 3, 2014 by Pills -N- Bills

[Ohiostyle]

Oh I would have loved to have had a seat at that table, but I probably would have been that creepy guy asking too many in depth questions. I like Whaley, hard to understand some of the hate he's gotten here, IMO he's put together a damn good roster.

[Kelly the Dog]

I have to wonder if Ortons personality and cavemans personality clash. They are two COMPLETLEY diffrent people. Think ice cube in his nwa days and sheriff joe arpaio.

 

I wonder is that has anything to do with the drop in playing time for caveman, and the increased play time for hogan. Hogan and Orton have alotttt more in common and IMO probably see eye to eye more than Orton and caveman. Im not in anyway shape or form suggesting it's a white or black thing just a compete 360 degrees of thier respective cultures.

Orton is one of them pinko liberals, i guarantee that he hates Joe Arpaio and hates you for making that insinuation.

[Fixxxer]

Sorry to break this to you but he still really likes EJ.

 

Some will not be happy with this....

[The Big Cat]

Kelly, I think you won the Internet today.

 

You talk about him being a good Bills ambassador. You're not so bad yourself.

[The Dean]

Great stuff, Kelly. Thanks for sharing. I really like Whaley.

 

BTW, are his eyes as buggy as they look in all the pictures? Maybe "buggy" isn't the word. He looks kind stoned most of the time.

Edited November 3, 2014 by The Dean

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

 

 

??? Maybe after their 2nd contract is up, but they tend to keep those top drafted guys at that position. When they get long of tooth or overpriced they either get a restructure or let them test the market.

 

I think you are right. I always think of kendrell bell, but he was the exception, not the norm. They do always seem to draft replacements, which gives them flexibility to let guys walk-- even guys still in their primes.

[The Wiz]

Definitely building the Bills after the Steeler teams that he grew up with. Then said they couldn't take the next step until they got Big Ben.

 

Well EJ is not Big Ben nor will ever be. So we will be looking in round 2 for a Big ben?

Seriously Kellyto83 but can you ever STFU about your hatred of EJ? Anytime an EJ thread shows up, positive or negative or completely unrelated, I'm sure most are waiting to see how you will piss all over it.

 

I'm pretty sure everyone knows you don't like him. Do you really need to throw this kind of garbage into every thread?

 

"Dan Carpenter FG% Thread" - he wouldn't need to kick FG if EJ didn't suck! (a hypothetical but you get my point) Give it a rest. You really are on a crusade with the EJ bashing.

 

And for the record, I was behind the EJ benching and like what Orton has done so far before you call me whatever the popular reference is of not giving up on EJ.

 

KellyTheDog, nice to hear he is a humble guy that "bills fans" can talk/relate to.

Edited November 3, 2014 by The Wiz

[QB Bills]

Awesome...thanks for sharing KtD. Did he put you on his porn mailing list?? (too easy...)

 

Did he say anything else about Marrone? On maybe, possibly replacing him at the end of the year?

 

If not, can you just say he did? I had San Fran in my survivor pool this week and refused to split an 1800 dollar pot between four people earlier this week. I need a pick-me-up!

[Kelly the Dog]

Awesome...thanks for sharing KtD. Did he put you on his porn mailing list?? (too easy...)

 

Did he say anything else about Marrone? On maybe, possibly replacing him at the end of the year?

 

If not, can you just say he did? I had San Fran in my survivor pool this week and refused to split an 1800 dollar pot between four people earlier this week. I need a pick-me-up!

Didn't talk much about Marrone. Just about the hire as I mentioned.

 

I can only assume he, like Pegula, and everyone else associated with the Bills, will wait to see how the season shakes out before deciding on Marrone.

 

I don't really care if you love, like, are ambivalent, dislike or hate Marrone, at the beginning of the season, looking at the schedule, with EJ at QB, you could not have said that this team should be 6-2 at the bye week, and that anything less would be somewhat of a disappointment. He's done a decent to good job overall. The Orton call was not one every coach would make. The team plays for him. We won three games on the last drive.

[Zona]

i like whaley, and i love the direction the team is heading. I hope we lock him up.

 

and i am not convinced EJ is done yet either. I felt the entire time he played that he was being timid, due to coaching. And if he gets another chance, i expect him to let his game hang out there for all to see. Good or bad. Cant be much worse i'ld say. but maybe playing like his hair is on fire will be just what he needs...

[CSBill]

Was lucky enough to watch the early games in LA with Doug Whaley this morning where we watch the games every Sunday. It was great. Thanks to AKC and Matt for setting it up. He didn't really say all that much that was controversial. We got to spend a few hours with him though. Had some wings and some drinks at 10 am. Was there with his wife and brother who were terrific, too.

 

First of all, what a great guy. Just as you would imagine. He just introduced himself to anyone who walked up to him as "Hi, I'm Doug." No pretension whatsoever. Really impressive guy.

 

He didn't say anything I was really surprised by. The most interesting thing was he said Orton at practice is yelling at the receivers, and told them if they weren't trying and open in practice he wasn't throwing to them in the game. And they all smartened up quick. That was great. Which led him to say that EJ tries to please everyone and is too nice, and any leader in any business has to be a dick sometimes, and EJ isn't at that point yet.

 

Other tidbits:

 

Loves Robert Woods, couldn't stop talking about him.

 

Thinks it will be hard to re-sign Spikes. Really wants to re-sign Hughes but has no idea how it will go. Agreed that if they look at it as paying the front seven instead of four, it can be rationalized.

 

Loves Aaron Williams and that was the reason they didn't try harder to re-sign Byrd.

 

Said Mike Williams trade thing really was all his agent but he's not happy he's not playing. He wouldn't bite when I challenged him about Williams, Watkins and Woods are better than Hogan. I couldn't read him on that. But we talked about him getting the four guys Watkins, Williams, Woods and Goodwin who all do different things well and it hasn't worked out that way. He also said that they didn't know they would be able to get Watkins when they got Williams so he went from being thought of as a #1 guy to kind of 2a.

 

Loves Preston Brown. That's why they won't overpay for Spikes, who will probably want a good contract and to play three downs.

 

Wants to upgrade TE but like everyone, knows they aren't a lot of good ones.

 

He does not particularly like New England or any of Massachusetts. Ha. That was pretty funny.

 

He loves living in Buffalo and said it's a known fact around the league that players hate coming to Buffalo and then hate leaving it.

 

Definitely building the Bills after the Steeler teams that he grew up with. Then said they couldn't take the next step until they got Big Ben.

 

He spends four to five days a week on the road scouting, he's visiting five different schools in five days this week. Talk about how college coaches will let him know when a player of theirs is trouble, without ever saying it. Mostly because they have to do the same thing with high school coaches about players they are recruiting.

 

He doesn't like Jameis Winston as the face of a franchise at all.

 

Loves Kiko obviously, who he says is healing fast.

 

Said when they were looking for a coach, him and Buddy and Overdorf and Russ got together and came up with an idea of what kind of guy they wanted, before they started talking about any specific guy. And they started with didn't want a retread, wanted a young guy who could be there 20 years, wanted someone out of the box, wanted a tough guy, and they liked Marrone because he fit every one of their criterion. Which would also explain them wanting Chip Kelly who also fit all of them.

 

Said the only time he was ever nervous at a game was visiting Oakland because he was scared walking through the parking lot. Ha.

 

He wanted the Dolphins to lose but understood both sides of the argument.

 

Great day and just a great guy. Perfect ambassador for the Bills. His brother watches the games with us on Sunday in LA. Nothing earth-shattering, and he was diplomatic as you'd expect when I asked him hard questions but he answered them well. Couldn't have been more impressed with him.

 

Cool .... Nothing about the guard situation?