Orton's Arm Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 (edited) Hackett called running plays on 65% of his first downs, and 68% of his second downs. The vast majority of these running plays were runs up the middle. He called pass plays on 84% of third downs. The Bills ran 13 third down plays, or 13 opportunities for Hackett to call run, run, pass. Of those 13 opportunities, Hackett called for run, run pass eight times, or 62% of the total. Another of those opportunities was used to call run, run, run. Booby Dixon averaged 2 yards a carry, and Bryce Brown averaged 2.1 yards a carry. Kyle Orton averaged 14 yards per pass attempt. Granted, that average was inflated by some long passes to Watkins. Prior to the Jets game, Orton's season average was over 7 yards per pass attempt. That's more than triple what the running backs averaged as they uselessly banged the ball up the middle into a pile of bodies. The Bills' passing game can typically be relied upon to produce over 7 yards per play. It was doing even better than that against the Jets. On the other hand, the running game wasn't doing anything. Especially not with the kinds of running plays Hackett called! So why would he use 2/3 of his first downs, and 2/3 of his second downs, on a running game that wasn't working? The Bills had ten conversions the whole game. (A conversion is defined as a play which resulted in either a first down or a touchdown.) Three of those conversions were off of Jets penalties. That meant the offense created seven non-penalty conversions on fifteen possessions. That's a little less than one non-penalty conversion every two possessions! That lack of conversions is what you'd expect from so much run, run pass. On a day when the Jets didn't have a quarterback, and when the Bills' defense created more turnovers than a French bakery, it was easy for the Bills to hide their weaknesses. Hackett's playcalling is a very serious weakness indeed! Edited October 27, 2014 by Orton's Arm
Numark3 Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 Has anyone else noticed his new haircut? Seems to be helping us win
buffaloboyinATL Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 And we were protecting a lead most of the game. Not surprising that we would run more in an effort to keep the clock moving. Additionally, since we had a lead, it was a great idea to see if our new running backs could carry the load. This is not indicative of bad play calling.
buffaloboyinATL Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 Has anyone else noticed his new haircut? Seems to be helping us win I thought we were winning because he is back in the booth.
26CornerBlitz Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 I thought this was going to be about Sabres' Goalie Matt Hackett.
LB3 Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 I was just sitting here and thinking about how we needed another Hackett thread. Thank you OP.
sodbuster Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 Hackett called running plays on 65% of his first downs, and 68% of his second downs. The vast majority of these running plays were runs up the middle. He called pass plays on 84% of third downs. The Bills had 13 third down plays, or 13 opportunities for Hackett to call run, run, pass. Of those 13 opportunities, Hackett called for run, run pass eight times, or 62% of the total. Another of those opportunities was used to call run, run, run. Booby Dixon averaged 2 yards a carry, and Bryce Brown averaged 2.1 yards a carry. Kyle Orton averaged 14 yards per pass attempt. Granted, that average was inflated by some long passes to Watkins. Prior to the Jets game, Orton's season average was over 7 yards per pass attempt. That's more than triple what the running backs averaged as they uselessly banged the ball up the middle into a pile of bodies. The Bills' passing game can typically be relied upon to produce over 7 yards per play. It was doing even better than that against the Jets. On the other hand, the running game wasn't doing anything. Especially not with the kinds of running plays Hackett called! So why would he use 2/3 of his first downs, and 2/3 of his second downs, on a running game that wasn't working? The Bills had ten conversions the whole game. (A conversion is defined as a play which resulted in either a first down or a touchdown.) Three of those conversions were off of Jets penalties. That meant the offense created seven non-penalty conversions on fifteen possessions. That's a little less than one non-penalty conversion every two possessions! That lack of conversions is what you'd expect from so much run, run pass. On a day when the Jets didn't have a quarterback, and when the Bills' defense created more turnovers than a French bakery, it was easy for the Bills to hide their weaknesses. Hackett's playcalling is a very serious weakness indeed! So I'm not quite sure I understand. Are you saying you like him or not? I'm not sure you were clear enough.
prissythecat Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 Blah Blah Blah... Did you change your name from Edward's Arm? I don't remember seeing a Manuel's Arm handle though or a Tuel's Arm.
PromoTheRobot Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 I was against firing Hackett until I read the clever headline of this thread. Now I'm sold.
PromoTheRobot Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 Has anyone else noticed his new haircut? Seems to be helping us win He keeps parting his hair on the left. Everyone expects the part to be on the left. Why doesn't he part it on the right once in a while?
A Dog Named Kelso Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 Did you change your name from Edward's Arm? I don't remember seeing a Manuel's Arm handle though or a Tuel's Arm. Yes he did
Wagon Circler Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 That was a very cogent and well-reasoned analysis. And a bunch of pretty idiotic comments. Hackett is seriously holding this team back. we should be 50% percent run pass on first down which might help us run the ball better.
Gray Beard Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 Hackett called running plays on 65% of his first downs, and 68% of his second downs. The vast majority of these running plays were runs up the middle. He called pass plays on 84% of third downs. The Bills ran 13 third down plays, or 13 opportunities for Hackett to call run, run, pass. Of those 13 opportunities, Hackett called for run, run pass eight times, or 62% of the total. Another of those opportunities was used to call run, run, run. Booby Dixon averaged 2 yards a carry, and Bryce Brown averaged 2.1 yards a carry. Kyle Orton averaged 14 yards per pass attempt. Granted, that average was inflated by some long passes to Watkins. Prior to the Jets game, Orton's season average was over 7 yards per pass attempt. That's more than triple what the running backs averaged as they uselessly banged the ball up the middle into a pile of bodies. The Bills' passing game can typically be relied upon to produce over 7 yards per play. It was doing even better than that against the Jets. On the other hand, the running game wasn't doing anything. Especially not with the kinds of running plays Hackett called! So why would he use 2/3 of his first downs, and 2/3 of his second downs, on a running game that wasn't working? The Bills had ten conversions the whole game. (A conversion is defined as a play which resulted in either a first down or a touchdown.) Three of those conversions were off of Jets penalties. That meant the offense created seven non-penalty conversions on fifteen possessions. That's a little less than one non-penalty conversion every two possessions! That lack of conversions is what you'd expect from so much run, run pass. On a day when the Jets didn't have a quarterback, and when the Bills' defense created more turnovers than a French bakery, it was easy for the Bills to hide their weaknesses. Hackett's playcalling is a very serious weakness indeed! Of all the "Fire Hackett" and "Leave Hackett Alone" threads, this is possibly the best post, although there have been a few other good ones as well.People saying to leave him alone because the Bills currently have a winning record remind me of that internet joke, "How can you say I'm a bad driver? Nobody died." Just because the Bills have a winning record doesn't mean there is nothing wrong. The predictable and ineffective runs on first down are stupid. Another overused cliche is "What is the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results."
Kellyto83TD Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 Hackett called running plays on 65% of his first downs, and 68% of his second downs. The vast majority of these running plays were runs up the middle. He called pass plays on 84% of third downs. The Bills ran 13 third down plays, or 13 opportunities for Hackett to call run, run, pass. Of those 13 opportunities, Hackett called for run, run pass eight times, or 62% of the total. Another of those opportunities was used to call run, run, run. Booby Dixon averaged 2 yards a carry, and Bryce Brown averaged 2.1 yards a carry. Kyle Orton averaged 14 yards per pass attempt. Granted, that average was inflated by some long passes to Watkins. Prior to the Jets game, Orton's season average was over 7 yards per pass attempt. That's more than triple what the running backs averaged as they uselessly banged the ball up the middle into a pile of bodies. The Bills' passing game can typically be relied upon to produce over 7 yards per play. It was doing even better than that against the Jets. On the other hand, the running game wasn't doing anything. Especially not with the kinds of running plays Hackett called! So why would he use 2/3 of his first downs, and 2/3 of his second downs, on a running game that wasn't working? The Bills had ten conversions the whole game. (A conversion is defined as a play which resulted in either a first down or a touchdown.) Three of those conversions were off of Jets penalties. That meant the offense created seven non-penalty conversions on fifteen possessions. That's a little less than one non-penalty conversion every two possessions! That lack of conversions is what you'd expect from so much run, run pass. On a day when the Jets didn't have a quarterback, and when the Bills' defense created more turnovers than a French bakery, it was easy for the Bills to hide their weaknesses. Hackett's playcalling is a very serious weakness indeed! I see what you did there in the title
thebandit27 Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 With regard to calling too many running plays on first down, have a look at this: http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/team-yards-per-first-down-attempt/2014/
bobobonators Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 Hackett called running plays on 65% of his first downs, and 68% of his second downs. The vast majority of these running plays were runs up the middle. He called pass plays on 84% of third downs. The Bills ran 13 third down plays, or 13 opportunities for Hackett to call run, run, pass. Of those 13 opportunities, Hackett called for run, run pass eight times, or 62% of the total. Another of those opportunities was used to call run, run, run. Booby Dixon averaged 2 yards a carry, and Bryce Brown averaged 2.1 yards a carry. Kyle Orton averaged 14 yards per pass attempt. Granted, that average was inflated by some long passes to Watkins. Prior to the Jets game, Orton's season average was over 7 yards per pass attempt. That's more than triple what the running backs averaged as they uselessly banged the ball up the middle into a pile of bodies. The Bills' passing game can typically be relied upon to produce over 7 yards per play. It was doing even better than that against the Jets. On the other hand, the running game wasn't doing anything. Especially not with the kinds of running plays Hackett called! So why would he use 2/3 of his first downs, and 2/3 of his second downs, on a running game that wasn't working? The Bills had ten conversions the whole game. (A conversion is defined as a play which resulted in either a first down or a touchdown.) Three of those conversions were off of Jets penalties. That meant the offense created seven non-penalty conversions on fifteen possessions. That's a little less than one non-penalty conversion every two possessions! That lack of conversions is what you'd expect from so much run, run pass. On a day when the Jets didn't have a quarterback, and when the Bills' defense created more turnovers than a French bakery, it was easy for the Bills to hide their weaknesses. Hackett's playcalling is a very serious weakness indeed! Well said And we were protecting a lead most of the game. Not surprising that we would run more in an effort to keep the clock moving. Additionally, since we had a lead, it was a great idea to see if our new running backs could carry the load. This is not indicative of bad play calling. We had a 1 score lead at half time. You dont run plays to protect the lead halfway through the game. You run plays to score more and win.
Gray Beard Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 With regard to calling too many running plays on first down, have a look at this: http://www.sportingc...n-attempt/2014/ Interesting. Bills are better than average on first down. Now look at three-and-outs or third down efficiency. Not so pretty.
Best Player Available Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 let Orton call the plays. Even with his limited time in Buffalo, He would do a better job 60% of the time, and 30% of the time he would mis read the defense, causing a 10% failure rate. But just on aforementioned 30% "On the flip side" the numbers will add up when FRED-EX is back in the lineup. And that is the truth! All percentages are subject to a standard +\- 3% error rate. In fact they don't even add up like most of the stuff here after a very good stomping of the Jests. Go Watkins!!
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