Augie Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 or growing it back Now, if he could grow an Andrew Luck neck beard, and BE Andrew Luck, I'm in for an extension. A lifetime extension....
Jerry Jabber Posted October 27, 2014 Author Posted October 27, 2014 I can't understand why people are so vehemently opposed to this. If he continues to play at this level for the remainder of the season, and the Bills make the playoffs, why would you be opposed to a reasonable extension for Orton? He could conceivably be a legit starting QB for a few years, buying Buffalo some time so they can draft a QB to be groomed as his replacement. With everyone healthy, Orton has a bounty of weapons to play with. I would think that he sees the potential of this team, and would be motivated to end his career on a high note. Just think about his impact on Sammy Watkins alone. With EJ under center, he perhaps would have been deemed a disappointment; a poor personnel decision. With Orton, Sammy is virtually a lock for OROY and likely a pro-bowler. Give Kyle a chance. +1
Freddie's Dead Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 (edited) Clearly, the Fitz experience will have everyone running away from this one. At the end of the year, if the Bills make the playoffs, or hell, let's go crazy and say if they just post a winning record for the first time in a decade, I'd see if KO was amenable to extending for 2 more years at $5-6M/year. Let him start and let EJ groom. If you really don't think EJ is it, then draft a QB in late rounds 2015, or wait until early rounds 2016. Face it, we don't have the draft picks next year to do this, and we need guards and a TE badly. Fix the QB position and free up those draft picks to plug the holes in 2015. Edited October 27, 2014 by Fred Jackson Jockstrap
Kelly the Dog Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 I find it amazing that someone actually started a thread on this after the Fitz debacle. The Bills gave Fitz a contract that was the 19th highest QB contract in the league and he immediately finished 19th in passer rating.
Max997 Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 I know it's only 4 games, but I can't help being impressed with Kyle Orton, especially when you consider he was not here for OTA's, minicamp, training camp and all 5 preseason games. Each week, Orton is getting better as he is having a better feel for the offense and gains more chemistry with his receivers. If Orton keeps progressing, should the Bills sign him to a contract extension at the end of the year? Why? They signed him to w two year deal so there is no need to even worry about it at this point.
Augie Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 Clearly, the Fitz experience will have everyone running away from this one. At the end of the year, if the Bills make the playoffs, or hell, let's go crazy and say if they just post a winning record for the first time in a decade, I'd see if KO was amenable to extending for 2 more years at $5-6M/year. Let him start and let EJ groom. If you really don't think EJ is it, then draft a QB in late 2015, or wait until early 2016. Face it, we don't have the draft picks next year to do this, and we need guards and a TE badly. Fix the QB position and free up those draft picks to plug the holes in 2015. This makes a lot of sense (except drafting a QB in late 2015 - it's either '15 or '16).
billsfan89 Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 No need to, got another year under contract. Don't need to make another Fitz mistake.
Kelly the Dog Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 Ok. My point is wait until the seasons over and gauge the situation from there. Totally agree. There is no need now. He's played well but he is still a journeyman until he proves over a season that he is not. That said, he's never had the weapons we have. He could be good enough in the Brad Johnson, Rich Gannon, Jeff Hostetler kind of way.
Jerry Jabber Posted October 27, 2014 Author Posted October 27, 2014 Ok. My point is wait until the seasons over and gauge the situation from there. I posed that question in my first post of this thread, so I don't understand the argument?
GhostofGailey Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!! Last time we gave a Qb an extension, his game went way south Yea.... all the way to Houston!
Freddie's Dead Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 This makes a lot of sense (except drafting a QB in late 2015 - it's either '15 or '16). Sorry, I meant late in the 2015 draft, or early in the 2016 draft. Fixing it.
Augie Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!! Last time we gave a Qb an extension, his game went way south Yea.... all the way to Houston! I used to be a banker and there was a saying.... just because you had a loan on a blue car go bad, it didn't mean all blue cars were bad. You have to be smart enough to evaluate every situation. Are you saying we can't EVER extend a QB, or you don't believe in THIS QB? Sorry, I meant late in the 2015 draft, or early in the 2016 draft. Fixing it. Should have guessed - that makes sense.
Jerry Jabber Posted October 27, 2014 Author Posted October 27, 2014 I think extending Orton (at the end of the season (if he still keeps playing good)) will give the Bills a good QB for a few years and give them more time to get a QB for the future, instead of reaching for a QB, like they did with Manuel.
SF Bills Fan Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 With each wek I'm becoming more convinced we found a real gem here in Orton. It would be awesome if this developed into of situation like a Kurt Warner or Rich Gannon where they bounced around with various teams and then found greatness late in their careers.
RuntheDamnBall Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 Sure let's jump the gun and give him big money halfway through the year. That worked out well with Fitz This.
ganesh Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 I know he has a 2 year contract, but I think if Orton keeps playing at this level (Or better), than I feel he could be our QB for the near future (4-5 years). Orton is 31, so he's not old by QB standards. I hope the Bills don't make the same mistake as they did with Fitz. Orton must take this team to the playoffs before talking about contract extension
RuntheDamnBall Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 Totally agree. There is no need now. He's played well but he is still a journeyman until he proves over a season that he is not. That said, he's never had the weapons we have. He could be good enough in the Brad Johnson, Rich Gannon, Jeff Hostetler kind of way. Hey man, all of those quarterbacks are white, average, and one of them even had a moustache.
Beerball Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 There is no reason Orton can't be the starter for the next couple of years. In fact put that to our advantage and draft the future QB while Kyle is still playing. That way you take your time, not draft someone because you have to like we did with EJ. Can a team do that?
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