mattsox Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 On 10/15/2014 at 4:20 AM, NextYearGuys said: Just wondering everyone's thoughts on him. Doesn't appear he'll get his job back in St. Louis. Would you like us to bring him in? I would love to see him and a qb we draft battle it out for the job. Worthless. Maybe worth Future considerations at best. Can't stay healthy, has never played up to his potential when healthy. Nothing special...
YoloinOhio Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 On 3/10/2015 at 12:21 PM, Rob's House said: I don't get the "restructure" bit. He's in the last year of his contract. What is there to restructure?the cap hit basically would eat up the rest of our space as it currently stands
BarleyNY Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 On 3/10/2015 at 12:15 PM, scribo said: He'd need to agree to a restructure before the Bills would trade for him. $16.5M hit in the 2015 season. Last season on his current contract. $13M. The salary only. The Rams would take the hit for the prorated signing bonus portion.
GG Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 On 3/10/2015 at 12:21 PM, Rob's House said: I don't get the "restructure" bit. He's in the last year of his contract. What is there to restructure? His full $16 mil salary would be a cap killer for almost any team. Sign a 4-5 year $20 mil guaranteed deal, with incentives that could go to $100 mil if he's healthy.
Not at the table Karlos Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 On 3/10/2015 at 12:20 PM, BarleyNY said: It's a little late in the game to renegotiate a contract. Literally hours. With time needed for not only all parties to read the deal through the league would need to approve it. On an incredibly busy day for that office in terms of contracts coming through. So that won't be happening unless it was in the works already. A team would have to do a handshake deal on a new contract and have room for his current salary cap hit until it got hammered out. I don't see any team giving up much for him without a new contract in place. Huge salary for one year for an oft injured QB doesn't make sense. If the Rams have room (which they do currently) why not wait until the dust settles and there are no QBs options left in the market and then rake a desperate team? Besides, they still need to find a QB if it isn't going to be Bradford. if they can draw up contracts for multiple FAs I'm pretty sure one more won't be a problem.
ddaryl Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 Bills wont trade for that contract IMO but if he is a FA I expect them to make a play However we can easily be outbid because our focus will be on TE FB and OL
Rob's House Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 On 3/10/2015 at 12:25 PM, GG said: His full $16 mil salary would be a cap killer for almost any team. Sign a 4-5 year $20 mil guaranteed deal, with incentives that could go to $100 mil if he's healthy. I thought If he were traded the new team would only take a cap hit of around $13m (which seems reasonable to me). Is that wrong?
Not at the table Karlos Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 On 3/10/2015 at 12:26 PM, ddaryl said: Bills wont trade for that contract IMO but if he is a FA I expect them to make a play However we can easily be outbid because our focus will be on TE FB and OL why can't we renegotiate his contract?
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 On 3/10/2015 at 12:31 PM, Rob's House said: I thought If he were traded the new team would only take a cap hit of around $13m (which seems reasonable to me). Is that wrong? you're probably pretty close. The Rams would be responsible for whatever his bonus was for this year
GG Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 On 3/10/2015 at 12:31 PM, Rob's House said: I thought If he were traded the new team would only take a cap hit of around $13m (which seems reasonable to me). Is that wrong? I used the full cap hit, not his salary. $13 mil is still a lot for any team outside Jags, Jets & Oakland. You want that number down under $10 mill. I am a bit skeptical this gets done, because Whaley hinted that the reason Bills can be active in FA is that they don't have to pay a franchise QB salary.
plenzmd1 Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 On 3/10/2015 at 12:15 PM, scribo said: He'd need to agree to a restructure before the Bills would trade for him. $16.5M hit in the 2015 season. Last season on his current contract. Think that is the hit film or St Louis, but $4m of that is dead money. New team on hook for $12m cap hit.
Not at the table Karlos Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 On 3/10/2015 at 12:33 PM, machine gun kelly said: Agreed Ddaryl. same question I asked ddaryl why can't we renegotiate?
Doc Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 He'll likely be looking for a new deal averaging what he's schedule to make this year with about half in guaranteed money. No way.
Not at the table Karlos Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 On 3/10/2015 at 12:35 PM, Doc said: He'll likely be looking for a new deal averaging what he's schedule to make this year with about half in guaranteed money. No way.if he's released what do you think he's gonna look for?
thebandit27 Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 On 3/10/2015 at 12:41 PM, kr632 said: if he's released what do you think he's gonna look for? Something like 3 years, $27M, $15M gtd
Not at the table Karlos Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 On 3/10/2015 at 12:43 PM, thebandit27 said: Something like 3 years, $27M, $15M gtd do you think we would have a better shot at a cheaper contract if we traded for him vs. Him being released?
Not at the table Karlos Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 On 3/10/2015 at 12:56 PM, Doc said: Yes.so why not trade for him?
thebandit27 Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 On 3/10/2015 at 12:52 PM, kr632 said: do you think we would have a better shot at a cheaper contract if we traded for him vs. Him being released? IMO, probably not. If I were in his agent's shoes, I'd tell any team that I'm not renegotiating the contract without a raise; no reason to give up a bird in the hand. On the open market, where he's subject to his current-day value, I think we'd have a better shot at a reasonable deal.
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