26CornerBlitz Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 MW has lost a step. Looked pretty fast on the 80 yard TD catch at Houston. Had no problem getting open at Chicago on the key leaping OT catch. Hackett and Marrone need to devise schemes and gameplans to better utilze the available personnel.
GG Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 Hackett and Marrone need to devise schemes and gameplans to better utilze the available personnel. Helps to have that best personnel dressed and on the field, too.
26CornerBlitz Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 Helps to have that best personnel dressed and on the field, too. Exactly.
LB3 Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 (edited) Looked pretty fast on the 80 yard TD catch at Houston. Had no problem getting open at Chicago on the key leaping OT catch. Hackett and Marrone need to devise schemes and gameplans to better utilze the available personnel. I actually remember thinking that he looked really slow on that play. Woods caught up to him quickly. Maybe he just took his foot off the gas though. Edited October 16, 2014 by KikoSeeBallKikoGetBall
NoSaint Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 that the practice was run focused and the few pass plays were out of 2 WR sets that Watkins and Woods took all of the snaps on offense with Hogan maybe entering the field once or twice. It's all relative to the whole picture which we do not have; what is really going on with the relationships and what is really going on with the practices. if we are going to be a 2 WR team that leans on 3 TE sets.... im not sure why we have spent 2 firsts, a second, a third, and a 6th that came with a big contract on WRs in the last 18 months and drafted only a 7th round TE and let our #1 test the waters and take him back after no interest. i agree that there is a lot of day to day we dont have access too -- whats frustrating though is running through the "what ifs" very few make me say "ah ok, that makes sense" on a global level and those that do come down pretty hard on MW (and by proxy make you wonder about marrones judgement on him in the first place).
4merper4mer Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 Helps to have that best personnel dressed and on the field, too. Not really. Jerry Rice and Barry Sanders in their prime could dress all day and then be stymied by Marrone and Hackett. If Williams really wants a trade he should wear a funny t-shirt.
26CornerBlitz Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 I actually remember thinking that he looked really slow on that play. Woods caught up to him quickly. Maybe he just took his foot off the gas though. All that mattered is he was fast enough that Swearinger couldn't catch him.
Cleveland Rocks? Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 MW's agent has to be pissed that he threw him under the bus. I was just reading about this. I can't imagine the team is pleased about him causing a distraction while they are trying to get ready for a game, either. I looked him up and he has 8 catches. Otherwise I'd say we should trade for him!
26CornerBlitz Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 I was just reading about this. I can't imagine the team is pleased about him causing a distraction while they are trying to get ready for a game, either. I looked him up and he has 8 catches. Otherwise I'd say we should trade for him! I blame Marrone for this with what I consider to be a poor decision to bench MW.
Cleveland Rocks? Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 (edited) I blame Marrone for this with what I consider to be a poor decision to bench MW. What did he do? We have a similar issue... Terrance West benched. He was our leading rusher. Coach says he wasn't pleased with his practice habits, or effort in the game when he didn't get the ball. I think it sends a message to guys that less than 100% or not being a team-first guy isn't going to cut it when you are trying to change a losing culture. Browns haven't won anything in a long time but these rookies... they don't get it.http://www.cleveland...nce_west_1.html Edited October 16, 2014 by Cleveland Rocks?
4merper4mer Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 -- whats frustrating though is running through the "what ifs" very few make me say "ah ok, that makes sense" on a global level and those that do come down pretty hard on MW (and by proxy make you wonder about marrones judgement on him in the first place). Marrone is a completely self absorbed doofus who likes yes men explains: Stevie M Williams Crossman Hackett Hilliard Tuel/Lewis Pears Cyrus maybe Spiller Development of EJ and/or lack of foresight seeing he can't be developed Bobbie Dixon being more a part of the game plan than the #4 overall pick who has shown real talent from the get-go Almost all of the issues are on the offensive side of the ball and several players and coaches have been thrown under the bus but the offensive guru head coach and saint still explains how frustrating things are for him in pressers.
Sojourner Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 I was just reading about this. I can't imagine the team is pleased about him causing a distraction while they are trying to get ready for a game, either. I looked him up and he has 8 catches. Otherwise I'd say we should trade for him! Personally I would say that the distraction was caused by scratching a player who was traded for and is on the books for 1.8m. Sure it's escalated since the trade talk but it was the FO who allowed the room for such a side show to pick up.
4merper4mer Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 What did he do? We have a similar issue... Terrance West benched. Who knows? Our HC's skin is thinner than the air on the moon.
26CornerBlitz Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 Who knows? Our HC's skin is thinner than the air on the moon. IIRC, that was a rep he had at Syracuse.
Cleveland Rocks? Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 Who knows? Our HC's skin is thinner than the air on the moon. Maybe he was being lazy in practice or not paying attention in films? Personally I would say that the distraction was caused by scratching a player who was traded for and is on the books for 1.8m. Sure it's escalated since the trade talk but it was the FO who allowed the room for such a side show to pick up. I'm sure there was a reason he didn't play. I think the Patriots deactivated one of their wide receivers (not injury related) recently for at least two games.
26CornerBlitz Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 Maybe he was being lazy in practice or not paying attention in films? All reports are that this is not the case. He actually volunteered the past two weeks to run as a scout team WR to help the team out.
4merper4mer Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 Maybe he was being lazy in practice or not paying attention in films? I'm sure there was a reason he didn't play. I think the Patriots deactivated one of their wide receivers (not injury related) recently for at least two games. Sammy Watkins: "The second half was 10 times easier than the first half," Watkins said. "I was beating (Revis) off the line, I was getting off the ball. I got open a couple times and (Williams') presence there helped me because I was kind of balancing battling what I should do on this thing and he told me exactly what Revis was doing the whole time." So when Williams' trade request became public on Monday, Watkins was taken aback. "I was very surprised," Watkins said. "He's a great athlete. He's getting paid all that money and he's not playing. I feel like anybody would feel the same way whether it's coach, player, anybody. That's just the nature of the game. Guys want to be on the field, guys want to make plays. He's one of those guys that want to be on the field and he has the ability to make any play." Link Doesn't sound like Williams was lazy. Sounds like an idiot making personnel decisions.
Cleveland Rocks? Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 Sounds like he is a fan favorite. That's always tough. There is always more to the story than what is told to the media. Especially during the season. Hopefully he can get back on the field for you guys.
Fan in Chicago Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 IIRC, that was a rep he had at Syracuse. A program he eventually turned around, no ?
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