Kelly the Dog Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 So you don't think that the Dockery & Walker contracts were money well spent? For far too long concerning the Bills, hindsight is 20-20 and foresight has been 50-50.
K-9 Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 There is, however, a correlation to spending smartly and success, which is something the Bills have not been able to do in the last 15 years. The last couple have been a little better (although no one is perfect of course and there have been some blunders). The most interesting element of the new regime, to me, will be who negotiates the contracts. Does Overdorf stay. Does Whaley take over as being solely responsible for how much we may FA and our own guys. Nothing will probably change for at least a year and maybe not until the end of next season, but it will be interesting. For too long, the Bills have had non-football guys deciding how much football players should be paid. It's not as bad as it used to be but it still exists to a degree. If they are smart, they either keep Overdorf or find someone else to be the cap specialist. I think there will be less of a budgetary concern in contract negotiations, but there has to be an eye on the cap relevant to its dynamic nature. You need a guy who understands cap ramifications several years down the road as well as tomorrow. And yes, spending "smartly" often means you'll be successful. But that's a far different animal than simply spending the most, which is what I was referring to. GO BILLS!!!
Kirby Jackson Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 For far too long concerning the Bills, hindsight is 20-20 and foresight has been 50-50. Ha ha, at the time those contracts were brutal. The Bills have done well the last few years in FA. They have spent wisely (Graham, Spikes, Dixon) and even the big ticket guy (Mario) has panned out. FA is like the draft in that when you swing and miss it hurts. Big FA contracts are like 1st round picks in that if you miss you are in trouble.
Kelly the Dog Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 If they are smart, they either keep Overdorf or find someone else to be the cap specialist. I think there will be less of a budgetary concern in contract negotiations, but there has to be an eye on the cap relevant to its dynamic nature. You need a guy who understands cap ramifications several years down the road as well as tomorrow. And yes, spending "smartly" often means you'll be successful. But that's a far different animal than simply spending the most, which is what I was referring to. GO BILLS!!! Agree, although not so sure about Overdorf. Yes, if he has a little less responsibility and his job is as a capologist more than the ultimate negotiator, I would agree. I think the GM needs to be the guy making decisions on how much a guy is worth, and should know everything there is to know about the cap because that is essential to putting together a team. A cap expert will become more important for the Bills because they are likely to be approaching it more in the future. I don't expect them to start crazy overpaying like Daniel Snyder, but signing more of our own free agents and a couple of key cogs will put us up against it soon. Ha ha, at the time those contracts were brutal. The Bills have done well the last few years in FA. They have spent wisely (Graham, Spikes, Dixon) and even the big ticket guy (Mario) has panned out. FA is like the draft in that when you swing and miss it hurts. Big FA contracts are like 1st round picks in that if you miss you are in trouble. Yeah, agreed, although Chris Williams was a head scratcher. Keith Rivers is so-so so far (although he hasn't been a liability when e has been out there so I guess I am somewhat pleased overall with him. The Branch extension didn't work out, although that may have been unavoidable. I am a big Whaley fan though. Stayin'.
LabattBlue Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 That's because there is no correlation between spending and success. GO BILLS!!! So opening the vault to bring in a big name coach versus the chumps we have seen hired for the last 15+ years , will not help increase their chances of success?
Kelly the Dog Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 So opening the vault to bring in a big name coach versus the chumps we have seen hired for the last 15+ years , will not help increase their chances of success? Not if it's Mike Shanahan or Mike Holmgren or other big ticket losers.
LabattBlue Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 Not if it's Mike Shanahan or Mike Holmgren or other big ticket losers. Its Pegulas job to write the check. Its Whaleys job to find the right guy.
K-9 Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 So opening the vault to bring in a big name coach versus the chumps we have seen hired for the last 15+ years , will not help increase their chances of success? It may very well lead to success. But there is still no correlation between doing that and having success. Snyder opened the vaults for 3 big name coaches over the last 15 years and it ended in disaster every time (Spurrier, Gibbs II, Shanahan). I'm with Kelly the Dog, we need to spend smartly more than simply spending a lot. GO BILLS!!!
Kelly the Dog Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 Its Pegulas job to write the check. Its Whaleys job to find the right guy. That is true, but that doesn't mean it needs to be a high profile, high priced guy.
Dennis in NC Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 9/9: Caller Junior gets emotional at Pegula News - WGR (1:23) Both of junior's calls for context. Wow, this great! If you have not heard this (and I just listened for the first time), you should spend 90 seconds and give it a listen. Now I see what Terry was talking about at his PC.
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