YoloinOhio Posted October 8, 2014 Author Posted October 8, 2014 One thing missing out of that article..... The patriots O line has been absolutely horrid.....and they are going against one of the very best D lines in the NFL...... The battle in the trenches cannot be discarded. But they fixed all their problems last week! Per Collinsworth.
YoloinOhio Posted October 8, 2014 Author Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) Attacking The Bills Defense, Patriots Best Chance Is 2-TEs Attacking LBs - See more at: http://patspub.patsf...h.Sh5afFfy.dpuf http://patspub.patsf...-attacking-lbs/ Edited October 8, 2014 by YoloinOhio
No Cease Fires Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 One thing missing out of that article..... The patriots O line has been absolutely horrid.....and they are going against one of the very best D lines in the NFL...... The battle in the trenches cannot be discarded. Yeah, this article is a bit one-sided. How about the challenges their offense will face against our defense? Namely, keeping Brady upright. Also, Benoit kind of glosses over how strong our run D has been this year.
G-Daddy Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 One thing missing out of that article..... The patriots O line has been absolutely horrid.....and they are going against one of the very best D lines in the NFL...... The battle in the trenches cannot be discarded. Let's hope the refs watch the pats* o-line holds.
Pneumonic Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 A wrinkle to possibly expect this game from the Pats. Power run formation with dual TE's (Gronk and Wright) along with dual pass catching RB's (Vereen and White) and Edelman. If the Bills employ a base run defense to stop the strong run formation, then expect Brady to spread things out and pick the best matchup he can find via the air. If Bills counter with nickel/dime package to stop the pass, then expect Brady to run the ball.
NoSaint Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 A wrinkle to possibly expect this game from the Pats. Power run formation with dual TE's (Gronk and Wright) along with dual pass catching RB's (Vereen and White) and Edelman. If the Bills employ a base run defense to stop the strong run formation, then expect Brady to spread things out and pick the best matchup he can find via the air. If Bills counter with nickel/dime package to stop the pass, then expect Brady to run the ball. you have in fact described their base offensive philosophy for the last several years, roughly.
Pneumonic Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 you have in fact described their base offensive philosophy for the last several years, roughly. Key difference being that, in this case, they are trotting out two RB's (Vereen and White) who are as much receivers as they are runners. Kinda a Chip Kelly strategy where these RB's become the queen pieces on the matchup board.
YoloinOhio Posted October 8, 2014 Author Posted October 8, 2014 Seriously though, who/how will the Pats OL double on the DL? They want to use 2 TE and 2 RB sets in the passing game? I'm not an X/O person so wondering how they protect Brady and still spread everyone out? Most teams don't have a Mario-Dareus-Kyle-Hughes on the front 4.
Dorkington Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 Most people seem to consider Cinci's DL as better than the Bills, so I do kinda wonder if NE has "fixed" it's OL problems. Why is it only Wednesday, I'm already sick from the nerves.
YoloinOhio Posted October 8, 2014 Author Posted October 8, 2014 Scouting Report: Bills defensive line vs Patriots offensive line. http://buffalowdown.com/2014/10/08/scouting-report-billsd-patso/ Most people seem to consider Cinci's DL as better than the Bills, so I do kinda wonder if NE has "fixed" it's OL problems. Why is it only Wednesday, I'm already sick from the nerves. They do? If that is the case, their DL isn't playing at that level this year, yet. Maybe because Atkins isn't all the way back from the ACL.
Wayne Cubed Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 Most people seem to consider Cinci's DL as better than the Bills, so I do kinda wonder if NE has "fixed" it's OL problems. Why is it only Wednesday, I'm already sick from the nerves. Really? All I ever hear is Buffalo has the best DL... Very very very good up and down the line. I don't think you can say that about Cincy
YoloinOhio Posted October 8, 2014 Author Posted October 8, 2014 I think STL, NYJ, Detroit and Miami are all in the conversation as far as talent. One that is underrated is in TN. But I think it would be tough to find a group playing better this season, both individually and as a unit, than the Bills.
Dorkington Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 Personally, I agree that our line has been stellar, and I can't imagine many playing better. But I also realize that I don't know jack about other teams, since I basically watch other games in the background while doing something else. (posting on TBD, most likely)
Deranged Rhino Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 Most people seem to consider Cinci's DL as better than the Bills, so I do kinda wonder if NE has "fixed" it's OL problems. Why is it only Wednesday, I'm already sick from the nerves. No one seriously considers Cinci's DL better than the Bills. The Bills are deeper, healthier, and flat out better at every position. Atkins isn't healthy and the rest of their D line doesn't penetrate nearly as well as the Bills. The Bengals have to rely on blitzing to get pressure, the Bills can do it with 4 guys on 5. That's an insane advantage most games.
H2o Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 Can't wait to see Spikes get a shot in on Brady. I'm sure Schwartz and Spikes have been talking about different blitz packages all week just so he can re-introduce himself.
NoSaint Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) Really? All I ever hear is Buffalo has the best DL... Very very very good up and down the line. I don't think you can say that about Cincy cincy is a pretty good group. not better, but very good across the board. Edited October 8, 2014 by NoSaint
Kelly the Dog Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 No one seriously considers Cinci's DL better than the Bills. The Bills are deeper, healthier, and flat out better at every position. Atkins isn't healthy and the rest of their D line doesn't penetrate nearly as well as the Bills. The Bengals have to rely on blitzing to get pressure, the Bills can do it with 4 guys on 5. That's an insane advantage most games. It's hard to beat the Bills front four across the board. It's a nice mix of veterans and youth, size and speed, and four completely different and complementary styles of play.
Pneumonic Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) Seriously though, who/how will the Pats OL double on the DL? They want to use 2 TE and 2 RB sets in the passing game? I'm not an X/O person so wondering how they protect Brady and still spread everyone out? Most teams don't have a Mario-Dareus-Kyle-Hughes on the front 4. The simplistic answer is It all depends on how many defenders are allowed to be free to cover the spread options. This ultimately boils down to how many defenders it takes to apply pressure on Brady such that he doesn't have time to find those options. If the 5 Pats OL are unable to handle the front 4 of the Bills, then the Pats need to remove one of the spread options and replace him with a blocker thereby negating any benefit. If the 5 Pats OL are able to stop the Bills front 4, then the Bills will most likely choose to employ 1 of their 7 (spare) defenders to help apply pressure to Brady (unless they wish to allow Brady to stand in the pocket and dissect the play). This means 1 less defender to double up on, in our example, either Gronk or Edelman. This may or may not be a problem depending on how effective the m2m coverage is on them. Edited October 8, 2014 by Pneumonic
YoloinOhio Posted October 8, 2014 Author Posted October 8, 2014 The simplistic answer is It all depends on how many defenders are allowed to be free to cover the spread options. This ultimately boils down to how many defenders it takes to apply pressure on Brady such that he doesn't have time to find those options. If this can be done with just the front 4 then 7 (spare) defenders are free to be schemed into coverage of just 5 offensive players. A doubling of Gronk and Edelman could then take place presuming Wright, Vereen and White are capable of being defended m2m. If the 5 Pats OL are unable to handle the front 4 of the Bills, then the Pats need to remove one of the spread options and replace him with a blocker thereby negating any benefit. If the 5 Pats OL are able to stop the Bills front 4, then the Bills will most likely choose to employ 1 of their 7 (spare) defenders to help apply pressure to Brady (unless they wish to allow Brady to stand in the pocket and dissect the play). This means 1 less defender to double up on, in our example, either Gronk or Edelman. This may or may not be a problem depending on how effective the coverage is on them. thanks. Glad we have Corey Graham.
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