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You would be hard pressed to find a more stupid idea and execution of the trick play on the KR by the Jets that didn't result in a turnover. TJ laying on the field was ridiculous. Harvin running it out for 9 yards back was stupid. Then stopping at the one yard line was brilliant. That whole thing was tremendous.

 

If you're a Bills fan.

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The funny thing is that on the Bills it was universally agreed upon that anytime TJ was involved in a play it turned to crap. Something went wrong on nearly every play directed his way.

Now that continues with the Jets. Good to see.

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You would be hard pressed to find a more stupid idea and execution of the trick play on the KR by the Jets that didn't result in a turnover. TJ laying on the field was ridiculous. Harvin running it out for 9 yards back was stupid. Then stopping at the one yard line was brilliant. That whole thing was tremendous.

 

If you're a Bills fan.

That play actually worked a year or two ago, don't remember the teams though. But it was dumb! The Jets would have been better off having TJ stand up, the Bills players would have said "meh, it's only TJ nothing to see here, and would all run towards PH instead. But in all seriousness, not sure who it was, but one of the Bills saw that the whole way and was the reason PH didn't throw the ball. Anyone know who that was?

 

The Eagles tried that play with Riley Cooper a couple years ago.

Ah yes, that was it.

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TJ was invisibile yesterday as usual, except when he was quite visibly being an idiot trying to show Marrone how tough he thinks he is.

 

And except when he was quite visibly trying very hard to be invisible on the trick kickoff return.

 

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Can somebody please explain why he laid down on that play? Was it designed that way so Harvin would run vs pass?

When you're 70 yards away, it's very difficult to see someone lying down. The hope is that nobody notices and everyone runs to the ball. Then have an open field when the ball is thrown the opposite direction. at least that's the theory. The Bills defended it perfectly and there was a Bills right next to TJ. PH looked and couldn't throw the ball due to the Bills player being right there.

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When you're 70 yards away, it's very difficult to see someone lying down. The hope is that nobody notices and everyone runs to the ball. Then have an open field when the ball is thrown the opposite direction. at least that's the theory. The Bills defended it perfectly and there was a Bills right next to TJ. PH looked and couldn't throw the ball due to the Bills player being right there.

Let me tell you why that play would never work! Let's say it was executed perfectly and Graham was open and the throw was made....Graham would still have to catch the ball!

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Can somebody please explain why he laid down on that play? Was it designed that way so Harvin would run vs pass?

The mistake in this play is actually on Harvin. He shouldn't have run the ball out of the endzone. The play is designed with one less blocker and relies on the st unit to ignore Graham. This opens up the pass to Graham and he can run it unobstructed. The issue is Harvin took it out of the endzone which removes the touchback (the right play) if the pass isn't open (it wasn't). This is a bad play by him not Graham.

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The mistake in this play is actually on Harvin. He shouldn't have run the ball out of the endzone. The play is designed with one less blocker and relies on the st unit to ignore Graham. This opens up the pass to Graham and he can run it unobstructed. The issue is Harvin took it out of the endzone which removes the touchback (the right play) if the pass isn't open (it wasn't). This is a bad play by him not Graham.

Graham would have taken it out a little bit further, too.

 

He also might have got picked off when he jumps for the ball and the Bills a TD. Could you imagine? It'd have been perfect for the day. Harvin throws to TJ, a Bills player INT's it in the end zone, TD!

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The mistake in this play is actually on Harvin. He shouldn't have run the ball out of the endzone. The play is designed with one less blocker and relies on the st unit to ignore Graham. This opens up the pass to Graham and he can run it unobstructed. The issue is Harvin took it out of the endzone which removes the touchback (the right play) if the pass isn't open (it wasn't). This is a bad play by him not Graham.

Actually, the biggest mistake is on Jets players blabbing on Twitter before the game that something like this was coming.
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Actually, the biggest mistake is on Jets players blabbing on Twitter before the game that something like this was coming.

That and using it when the game is already over.

 

Using that on the second kickoff or earlier in the game would have been ideal.

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While were on the topic of TJ I'd like to point out that a very large percentage of passes targeting him result in INTs. The McKelvin INT that was disallowed was targeting TJ. Most of EJs INTs were targeting TJ. Every INT of Tuel's career was targeting TJ. This is why I hope Tuel gets another chance. (EJ already got his chance to play without TJ.)

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