Best Player Available Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 I hate to be an upper but.................BILLS 17.......LIONS 14................
jester43 Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 ... is simply not that great of a WR. I'd call him average, and his stats support that: 2013 - 14 games, 587 yards (42 avg), 3 TDs 2014 - 5 games, 156 yards (31 avg), 0 TDs As usual, the pollyannas are jumping all over anyone who says anything critical, but your assessment is mostly fair. While I do think he deserves credit for his blocking, I'd like to see his production go up now that he has a better qb throwing to him. At least we can be reasonably sure that iif he's open the QB will notice. So we'll know soon enough what kind of weapon he is.
Max997 Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 (edited) ... is simply not that great of a WR. I'd call him average, and his stats support that: 2013 - 14 games, 587 yards (42 avg), 3 TDs 2014 - 5 games, 156 yards (31 avg), 0 TDs This is pretty lame. Of all things to be concerned with you decide to start a thread about their number 3 receiver who until today has played with a below average QB and base ur entire opinion of him on his stats. Yeah that makes perfect sense. how about judging a player by what you see with ur own eyes and not what you read in the stats column online. Edited October 6, 2014 by Max997
truth on hold Posted October 6, 2014 Author Posted October 6, 2014 Eric Moulds year 1: 20 receptions 279 yards 2 touchdowns year 2: 29 receptions 294 yards 0 touchdowns year 3: 67 receptions 1368 yards 9 touchdowns I use this example as most receivers don't do a lot in their first two seasons. you cant possibly think Woods is the physical specimen Moulds was? Moulds a tank @ 6'2', 225lbs ... and very raw coming out of college. Woods is 2" shorter, 35 lbs lighter, and came out of USC about as polished as he could be.
jester43 Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 Eric Moulds year 1: 20 receptions 279 yards 2 touchdowns year 2: 29 receptions 294 yards 0 touchdowns year 3: 67 receptions 1368 yards 9 touchdowns I use this example as most receivers don't do a lot in their first two seasons. Eric Moulds is "most receivers?" And could you at least use an example from the 21st century?
r00tabaga Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 What a weird post. So I can assume you don't watch a lot of Bills games.
8-8 Forever? Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 ... is simply not that great of a WR. I'd call him average, and his stats support that: 2013 - 14 games, 587 yards (42 avg), 3 TDs 2014 - 5 games, 156 yards (31 avg), 0 TDs then don't be a downer, its called a W. forget how they did it and move on to the Pats. W. W. W.
FireChan Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 you cant possibly think Woods is the physical specimen Moulds was? Moulds a tank @ 6'2', 225lbs ... and very raw coming out of college. Woods is 2" shorter, 35 lbs lighter, and came out of USC about as polished as he could be. So being shorter and lighter makes him a better WR prospect than Moulds? Go home Joe, you're drunk.
Max997 Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 What a weird post. So I can assume you don't watch a lot of Bills games. I agree, of all the things to complain about
FireChan Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 As usual, the pollyannas are jumping all over anyone who says anything critical, but your assessment is mostly fair. While I do think he deserves credit for his blocking, I'd like to see his production go up now that he has a better qb throwing to him. At least we can be reasonably sure that iif he's open the QB will notice. So we'll know soon enough what kind of weapon he is. Mostly fair? It's not even close.
purple haze Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 (edited) ... is simply not that great of a WR. I'd call him average, and his stats support that: 2013 - 14 games, 587 yards (42 avg), 3 TDs 2014 - 5 games, 156 yards (31 avg), 0 TDs Nothing wrong with Robert Woods at all that consistent QB play won't fix. Calm yourself. Edited October 6, 2014 by purple haze
justnzane Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 Eric Moulds is "most receivers?" And could you at least use an example from the 21st century? Year the player had his breakout: Last year's Pro Bowlers (ignoring the freaks) Antonio Brown 2nd year Dez Bryant 3rd year Brandon Marshall 2nd year Alshon Jeffery 2nd year The point is that there has to be patience amongst young players. As also mentioned, one has to take into account that 19 games into Woods career, he has caught the ball from 4 different QB's and is clearly a #2 or #3 option. As a second rounder, the expectations should not be at the same level as Sammy Watkins.
truth on hold Posted October 6, 2014 Author Posted October 6, 2014 Year the player had his breakout: Last year's Pro Bowlers (ignoring the freaks) Antonio Brown 2nd year Dez Bryant 3rd year Brandon Marshall 2nd year Alshon Jeffery 2nd year The point is that there has to be patience amongst young players. As also mentioned, one has to take into account that 19 games into Woods career, he has caught the ball from 4 different QB's and is clearly a #2 or #3 option. As a second rounder, the expectations should not be at the same level as Sammy Watkins. 2nd rounders have high expectations ... especially @41st overall. The consensus around here is that he's great, never hear the slightest utterance of criticism ... and Im just not seeing it. Consider this: if Woods were all he's cracked up to be, would Bills trade away a 1st for another WR? No.... they wait and take a Beckham or Benjamin. IMO coaches knew something about Woods most fans don't ... he's pretty average
Deranged Rhino Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 I disagree. That criticism shows you all you need to know about JTSP cred. He's trolling. It drips from every post he writes.
Max997 Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 2nd rounders have high expectations ... especially @41st overall. The consensus around here is that he's great, never hear the slightest utterance of criticism ... and Im just not seeing it. Consider this: if Woods were all he's cracked up to be, would Bills trade away a 1st for another WR? No.... they wait and take a Beckham or Benjamin. IMO coaches knew something about Woods most fans don't ... he's pretty average The Bills trading up for Watkins a potential star had ZERO to do with Woods
TSOL Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 Let's see what he does with a better QB.... Let us know when we get one, ok?
Deranged Rhino Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 This thread sucks. Just like my fantasy team this week against yours.
John Cocktosten Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 Kelvin Benjamin wasn't a first rounder when EJ was his QB. See the difference when a real QB is throwing the ball? 2012-13 Florida State 14 30 495 4 2013-14 Florida State 13 50 957 14
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