JP-era Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 1 DB Ronald Bartell 6-2 198 Howard 1 WR Vincent Jackson 6-5 223 Northern Colorado 2 DB Stanley Wilson 5-11 181 Stanford 3 DB Abraham Elimimian 5-9 193 Hawaii 5 QB Charlie Frye 6-4 227 Akron 7 QB Dan Orlovsky 6-5 232 Connecticut 8 DB Darrent Williams 5-9 175 Oklahoma State 9 WR Mark Clayton 5-10 185 Oklahoma 9 DB Alphonso Hodge 5-11 203 Miami (Ohio) 10 LB Lance Mitchell 6-2 245 Oklahoma 17 LB Jared Newberry 6-1 224 Stanford 18 QB Kyle Orton 6-4 217 Purdue 18 P Cole Farden 5-10 199 Oklahoma State 19 WR Courtney Roby 6-0 284 Indiana 20 RB Noah Herron 5-10 231 Northwestern 21 DB Oshiomogho Atogwe 5-11 203 Stanford 21 WR Taylor Stubblefield 5-11 172 Purdue 27 DB Jamaal Brimmer 6-1 213 UNLV 29 RB Manuel White 6-2 251 UCLA 30 RB J.J. Arrington 5-9 204 California 31 DL Matt Roth 6-3 262 Iowa 34 LB Kirk Morrison 6-1 236 San Diego State 37 DB Sean Considine 6-0 206 Iowa 38 LB Barrett Ruud 6-2 240 Nebraska 40 RB Zach Tuiasosopo 6-2 249 Washington 41 LB Alfred Fincher 6-1 240 Connecticut 43 RB Darren Sproles 5-6 181 Kansas State 45 DL Jonathan Babineaux 6-2 276 Iowa 50 OL Jonathan Clinkscale 6-4 304 Wisconsin 55 OL Junius Coston 6-3 307 North Carolina A&T 65 OL Khalif Barnes 6-5 305 Washington 67 OL Dan Buenning 6-5 310 Wisconsin 71 OL Michael Roos 6-7 313 Eastern Washington 72 OL Adam Snyder 6-5 325 Oregon 75 OL David Baas 6-4 311 Michigan 76 DL Lorenzo Alexander 6-1 295 California 77 DL Anttaj Hawthorne 6-2 310 Wisconsin 78 OL Adam Terry 6-8 305 Syracuse 79 OL Justin Geisinger 6-4 342 Vanderbilt 81 TE Alex Smith 6-4 255 Stanford 82 WR Brandon Jones 6-2 215 Oklahoma 84 TE Joel Dreessen 6-4 257 Colorado State 85 K Mike Nugent 5-9 175 Ohio State 87 WR Craig Bragg 6-1 198 UCLA 90 DL Jimmy Verdon 6-3 278 Arizona State 91 DL Bill Swancutt 6-4 264 Oregon State 92 DE Trent Cole 6-2 243 Cincinnati 97 DL Attiyah Ellison 6-4 303 Missouri South Roster Coaching staff: Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Jon Gruden) South Roster No. Pos. Name Height Weight School 1 WR Reggie Brown 6-1 197 Georgia 1 DB Eric Green 5-11 197 Virginia Tech 2 LB Leroy Hill 6-1 220 Clemson 3 WR Roydell Williams 6-0 187 Tulane 4 DB Junior Rosegreen 5-11 189 Auburn 8 DB Bryant McFadden 5-1 191 Florida State 9 WR Matt Jones 6-6 237 Arkansas 10 WR Roddy White 6-1 201 UAB 11 WR Craphonso Thorpe 6-1 189 Florida State 13 DB Corey Webster 6-0 202 LSU 14 QB David Greene 6-3 231 Georgia 14 DB Carlos Rogers 6-0 195 Auburn 16 QB Brock Berlin 6-1 215 Miami 16 LB Cornelius Wortham 6-2 234 Alabama 17 QB Jason Campbell 6-4 221 Auburn 18 DB Vincent Fuller 6-1 196 Virginia Tech 21 RB Cedric Houston 5-11 215 Tennessee 22 DB James Butler 6-2 205 Georgia Tech 23 RB Will Matthews 6-1 259 Texas 24 RB Carnell Williams 5-11 212 Auburn 25 RB Kay-Jay Harris 6-0 229 West Virginia 27 LB Michael Boley 6-2 225 Southern Miss 29 DB Travis Daniels 6-2 188 LSU 30 RB Nehemiah Broughton 5-11 252 The Citadel 33 LB Marcus Lawrence 6-2 235 South Carolina 47 DL Jim Davis 6-3 276 Virginia Tech 47 P Dustin Colquitt 6-1 196 Tennessee 51 OL Evan Mathis 6-5 308 Alabama 54 LB Robert McCune 6-0 243 Louisville 60 OL David Stewart 6-5 315 Mississippi State 61 OL Ray Willis 6-5 320 Florida State 70 OL Wesley Britt 6-7 313 Alabama 71 OL Logan Mankins 6-3 317 Fresno State 72 OL Jason Brown 6-2 332 North Carolina 76 OL Marcus Johnson 6-6 316 Mississippi 77 OL Jeremy Parquet 6-7 324 Southern Miss 78 OL Chris Myers 6-4 302 Miami 82 WR Fred Gibson 6-1 193 Georgia 84 TE Alex Holmes 6-1 269 USC 84 DL Marcus Spears 6-4 295 LSU 85 DL Shaun Cody 6-4 292 USC 85 TE Cody McCarty 6-4 267 TCU 86 K Jonathan Nichols 5-11 182 Mississippi 93 DL Ronald Fields 6-1 310 Mississippi State 94 DE Demarcus Ware 6-4 232 Troy 95 DL George Gause 6-5 271 South Carolina 97 DL Anthony Bryant 6-3 336 Alabama 98 DL Mike Patterson 6-0 292 USC 99 DL Mike Montgomery 6-4 280 Texas A&M Guys you may wanna see: QB's- Orton, Orlovsky, Frye, Campbell WR's- Roby, Stubblefield, Clayton, Bragg, Thorpe, Gibson TE's- Holmes RB's- Arrington, Sproles, Herron, Houston, Cadillac T's- Barnes, Terry, Britt G's- Baas, Myers DT's- Hawthorne DE's- Spears, Cody LB's- None DB's- Hodge, McFadden S's- Brimmer K- NUGE!!!!!! The must sees are: Craphonso Thorpe and Fred Gibson- both playmakers and would be instant #3's JJ Arrington, Darren Sproles, Noah Houston- all are mid rounders and give us a great backfield. Herron is slow. Marcus Spears- a stud pass rusher, may last into the 2nd David Baas- probably THE SINGLE GUY to watch. He is listed as a late 1st or early 2nd, he may drop. He is the second coming of Steve Hutchinson and plays both G and C. The Bills have been CAREFULLY wtaching him! Mike NUGENT!!!!!!! Should be there at our 2nd rounder and may be there in the 3rd. The odds on fan favorite and a STUD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 Missing someone aint ya??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 Mike NUGENT!!!!!!! Should be there at our 2nd rounder and may be there in the 3rd. 222608[/snapback] may be there in the 3rd? Sure, if he gets a let amputated before april... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP-era Posted January 29, 2005 Author Share Posted January 29, 2005 may be there in the 3rd? Sure, if he gets a let amputated before april... 222610[/snapback] I bet hes there in the 3rd. He IS a Kicker after all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 I bet hes there in the 3rd. He IS a Kicker after all! 222612[/snapback] Did you say BET? got a paypal account? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zona Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 Sproles is 5' nothing- will never make it in this league. Thorpe has not had a good week, not sure if he will be an "instant" number three. I do love Nugent, and wouldn't mind spending the 2nd rd pick on him if we trade Travis for a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tux of Borg Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 Sproles is 5' nothing- will never make it in this league.Thorpe has not had a good week, not sure if he will be an "instant" number three. I do love Nugent, and wouldn't mind spending the 2nd rd pick on him if we trade Travis for a second. 222617[/snapback] Sproles is the next Berry Sanders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP-era Posted January 29, 2005 Author Share Posted January 29, 2005 Did you say BET? got a paypal account? 222613[/snapback] Rather then butt heads on it, lets just agree to disagree and wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 Rather then butt heads on it, lets just agree to disagree and wait and see. 222619[/snapback] I'm not butting heads at all.. I just want to make a bet with you. You say 3rd round, i say earlier... How is that butting heads? Ask around, I pay off my bets (god damn Bills Oline only lettign up 39 sacks!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP-era Posted January 29, 2005 Author Share Posted January 29, 2005 Sproles is 5' nothing- will never make it in this league.Thorpe has not had a good week, not sure if he will be an "instant" number three. I do love Nugent, and wouldn't mind spending the 2nd rd pick on him if we trade Travis for a second. 222617[/snapback] Agreed, My favorite FSU WR ISNT Thorpe its Stovall! Thorpe is a track star who looks like Moss as far as build, he is inconsistent but has the deep speed. Just would be another threat and would stretch the field. Reed cant catch OR get open much anymore. When I say instant #3, Im saying a guy who is an upgrade to Reed. Thropes speed does it for me. Sproles can very well make it. Ask Warrick Dunn, Barry Sanders, Marshall Faulk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP-era Posted January 29, 2005 Author Share Posted January 29, 2005 I'm not butting heads at all.. I just want to make a bet with you. You say 3rd round, i say earlier... How is that butting heads? Ask around, I pay off my bets (god damn Bills Oline only lettign up 39 sacks!!) 222620[/snapback] Gambing aint my game man, you want a healthy "eating crow" bet, great Im all ears. Ill be here and admit I was wrong IF Nugent is drafted before is drafted before the 3rd. Will you be here admitting you were wrong IF He drops into the 3rd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 Ask around, I pay off my bets (god damn Bills Oline only lettign up 39 sacks!!) Too bad for you the Bills didn't start McGahee later. In the 6 games he didn't start, the Bills gave up 23 sacks. As an aside, if you average out the 16 sacks they gave up in 10 games with McGahee starting, that comes out to 26 for the season. Interesting how much difference a player makes (evne though I'm a Travis fan, I have to admit this part), and how Bledsoe can have his number of sacks cut in-half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 I do think that Nugent will last to our pick in the 2nd round, but there is no way that he'll make it to our pick in the third. I feel 100% confident in that fact. If the Bills really want to upgrade the team and give themselves 2-3 more victories next season than they would get with Lindell's half-assed kicking, then Nugent is the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zona Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 Agreed, My favorite FSU WR ISNT Thorpe its Stovall! Thorpe is a track star who looks like Moss as far as build, he is inconsistent but has the deep speed. Just would be another threat and would stretch the field. Reed cant catch OR get open much anymore. When I say instant #3, Im saying a guy who is an upgrade to Reed. Thropes speed does it for me. Sproles can very well make it. Ask Warrick Dunn, Barry Sanders, Marshall Faulk. 222621[/snapback] Dunn, Sanders, and Faulk are all the same size as Emmitt Smith and Thurman Thomas. 5'10" around 210 to 215 lbs. Sproles measured 5'5 about 175-180 lbs. Sorry, but that is not the same size. He will make a roster, anp lay fow a year or two, but he will end up being a NOBODY.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_wag Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 there are going to be an awful lot of disappointed people when nugent does last to the bills pick in the 2nd and they pass over him for another prospect...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP-era Posted January 29, 2005 Author Share Posted January 29, 2005 there are going to be an awful lot of disappointed people when nugent does last to the bills pick in the 2nd and they pass over him for another prospect...... 222654[/snapback] agreed, I love the guy but can we really pass over a dominant (in college at least) LG like CJ Brooks, Elton Brown, or maybe David Baas for a kicker? I love the thought of: Trading Henry for a 2nd (higher than ours) Drafting CJ Brooks, Elton Brown, or David Baas if available with 2nd #1 Drafting Mike Nugent with our 2nd #2 Getting a LT and TE thorugh FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 there are going to be an awful lot of disappointed people when nugent does last to the bills pick in the 2nd and they pass over him for another prospect...... 222654[/snapback] It'll be a huge screw-up for the Bills and any other team that passes on him if that does happen. I really feel that Nugent is going to be the next Jason Elam, even better than him actually. Lets just hope the Fins or Jets dont get him because he'll make us pay for the next decade if we dont select him. If he's gone by our pick, then I'll just adopt a "so it goes" type of opinion...but if the Bills have a crack at him and pass on it, it'll show that TD once again feels that we can get by with the craptacular play of Lindell and further prove that he, for some reason, doesnt want to improve our kicking game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP-era Posted January 29, 2005 Author Share Posted January 29, 2005 1 DB Ronald Bartell 6-2 198 Howard1 WR Vincent Jackson 6-5 223 Northern Colorado 2 DB Stanley Wilson 5-11 181 Stanford 3 DB Abraham Elimimian 5-9 193 Hawaii 5 QB Charlie Frye 6-4 227 Akron 7 QB Dan Orlovsky 6-5 232 Connecticut 8 DB Darrent Williams 5-9 175 Oklahoma State 9 WR Mark Clayton 5-10 185 Oklahoma 9 DB Alphonso Hodge 5-11 203 Miami (Ohio) 10 LB Lance Mitchell 6-2 245 Oklahoma 17 LB Jared Newberry 6-1 224 Stanford 18 QB Kyle Orton 6-4 217 Purdue 18 P Cole Farden 5-10 199 Oklahoma State 19 WR Courtney Roby 6-0 284 Indiana 20 RB Noah Herron 5-10 231 Northwestern 21 DB Oshiomogho Atogwe 5-11 203 Stanford 21 WR Taylor Stubblefield 5-11 172 Purdue 27 DB Jamaal Brimmer 6-1 213 UNLV 29 RB Manuel White 6-2 251 UCLA 30 RB J.J. Arrington 5-9 204 California 31 DL Matt Roth 6-3 262 Iowa 34 LB Kirk Morrison 6-1 236 San Diego State 37 DB Sean Considine 6-0 206 Iowa 38 LB Barrett Ruud 6-2 240 Nebraska 40 RB Zach Tuiasosopo 6-2 249 Washington 41 LB Alfred Fincher 6-1 240 Connecticut 43 RB Darren Sproles 5-6 181 Kansas State 45 DL Jonathan Babineaux 6-2 276 Iowa 50 OL Jonathan Clinkscale 6-4 304 Wisconsin 55 OL Junius Coston 6-3 307 North Carolina A&T 65 OL Khalif Barnes 6-5 305 Washington 67 OL Dan Buenning 6-5 310 Wisconsin 71 OL Michael Roos 6-7 313 Eastern Washington 72 OL Adam Snyder 6-5 325 Oregon 75 OL David Baas 6-4 311 Michigan 76 DL Lorenzo Alexander 6-1 295 California 77 DL Anttaj Hawthorne 6-2 310 Wisconsin 78 OL Adam Terry 6-8 305 Syracuse 79 OL Justin Geisinger 6-4 342 Vanderbilt 81 TE Alex Smith 6-4 255 Stanford 82 WR Brandon Jones 6-2 215 Oklahoma 84 TE Joel Dreessen 6-4 257 Colorado State 85 K Mike Nugent 5-9 175 Ohio State 87 WR Craig Bragg 6-1 198 UCLA 90 DL Jimmy Verdon 6-3 278 Arizona State 91 DL Bill Swancutt 6-4 264 Oregon State 92 DE Trent Cole 6-2 243 Cincinnati 97 DL Attiyah Ellison 6-4 303 Missouri South Roster Coaching staff: Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Jon Gruden) South Roster No. Pos. Name Height Weight School 1 WR Reggie Brown 6-1 197 Georgia 1 DB Eric Green 5-11 197 Virginia Tech 2 LB Leroy Hill 6-1 220 Clemson 3 WR Roydell Williams 6-0 187 Tulane 4 DB Junior Rosegreen 5-11 189 Auburn 8 DB Bryant McFadden 5-1 191 Florida State 9 WR Matt Jones 6-6 237 Arkansas 10 WR Roddy White 6-1 201 UAB 11 WR Craphonso Thorpe 6-1 189 Florida State 13 DB Corey Webster 6-0 202 LSU 14 QB David Greene 6-3 231 Georgia 14 DB Carlos Rogers 6-0 195 Auburn 16 QB Brock Berlin 6-1 215 Miami 16 LB Cornelius Wortham 6-2 234 Alabama 17 QB Jason Campbell 6-4 221 Auburn 18 DB Vincent Fuller 6-1 196 Virginia Tech 21 RB Cedric Houston 5-11 215 Tennessee 22 DB James Butler 6-2 205 Georgia Tech 23 RB Will Matthews 6-1 259 Texas 24 RB Carnell Williams 5-11 212 Auburn 25 RB Kay-Jay Harris 6-0 229 West Virginia 27 LB Michael Boley 6-2 225 Southern Miss 29 DB Travis Daniels 6-2 188 LSU 30 RB Nehemiah Broughton 5-11 252 The Citadel 33 LB Marcus Lawrence 6-2 235 South Carolina 47 DL Jim Davis 6-3 276 Virginia Tech 47 P Dustin Colquitt 6-1 196 Tennessee 51 OL Evan Mathis 6-5 308 Alabama 54 LB Robert McCune 6-0 243 Louisville 60 OL David Stewart 6-5 315 Mississippi State 61 OL Ray Willis 6-5 320 Florida State 70 OL Wesley Britt 6-7 313 Alabama 71 OL Logan Mankins 6-3 317 Fresno State 72 OL Jason Brown 6-2 332 North Carolina 76 OL Marcus Johnson 6-6 316 Mississippi 77 OL Jeremy Parquet 6-7 324 Southern Miss 78 OL Chris Myers 6-4 302 Miami 82 WR Fred Gibson 6-1 193 Georgia 84 TE Alex Holmes 6-1 269 USC 84 DL Marcus Spears 6-4 295 LSU 85 DL Shaun Cody 6-4 292 USC 85 TE Cody McCarty 6-4 267 TCU 86 K Jonathan Nichols 5-11 182 Mississippi 93 DL Ronald Fields 6-1 310 Mississippi State 94 DE Demarcus Ware 6-4 232 Troy 95 DL George Gause 6-5 271 South Carolina 97 DL Anthony Bryant 6-3 336 Alabama 98 DL Mike Patterson 6-0 292 USC 99 DL Mike Montgomery 6-4 280 Texas A&M Guys you may wanna see: QB's- Orton, Orlovsky, Frye, Campbell WR's- Roby, Stubblefield, Clayton, Bragg, Thorpe, Gibson TE's- Holmes RB's- Arrington, Sproles, Herron, Houston, Cadillac T's- Barnes, Terry, Britt G's- Baas, Myers DT's- Hawthorne DE's- Spears, Cody LB's- None DB's- Hodge, McFadden S's- Brimmer K- NUGE!!!!!! The must sees are: Craphonso Thorpe and Fred Gibson- both playmakers and would be instant #3's JJ Arrington, Darren Sproles, Noah Houston- all are mid rounders and give us a great backfield. Herron is slow. Marcus Spears- a stud pass rusher, may last into the 2nd David Baas- probably THE SINGLE GUY to watch. He is listed as a late 1st or early 2nd, he may drop. He is the second coming of Steve Hutchinson and plays both G and C. The Bills have been CAREFULLY wtaching him! Mike NUGENT!!!!!!! Should be there at our 2nd rounder and may be there in the 3rd. The odds on fan favorite and a STUD! 222608[/snapback] Gibson has been a favorite of mine for a while. He is impressing. Baas hasnt let a single guy by him yet. I also am impressed with Alex Smith (Stanford TE) I think he looks alot like Winslow. McFadden is certainly a hitter at CB. I wanna see SPEED at WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep2evans Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 I wanna see SPEED at WR. 222731[/snapback] #83 Lee Evans We need more of a possession guy at #3 WR. Kinda like Josh Reed, just way better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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