Deranged Rhino Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 You make Woods sound like Andre Reed. He could easily become Andre 2.0 in Buffalo. He's fearless going over the middle, loves contact, and catches better in traffic than anyone else we have on the roster. Woods has all-pro ability, he just doesn't have the "wow factor" in any physical category.
NoSaint Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 (edited) Kirby and k9 are the only ones giving me hope for this board in this thread.... It seems like the straw poll might leave woods ahead in these parts. I'm guessing it's the buffalo blue collar underdog thing. I don't meanthatas a knocking woods either Edited October 2, 2014 by NoSaint
Kirby Jackson Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 (edited) I'm guessing it's the buffalo blue collar underdog thing. I don't meanthatas a knocking woods either I didn't want to say it but "it is okay to fall in love with the superstar" (assuming that he is yours). We aren't used to having them but all signs point to Sammy becoming one. Woods has lots of likable qualities (mainly toughness). He is a leader type with a good deal of talent. It just isn't the same. It's great to have Woods as your favorite player. He is everything that you want in a core guy. It's just crazy to think that he is the better player. Edited October 2, 2014 by Kirby Jackson
Corp000085 Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 Woods was on NFL Radio on Sirius about 2 hours ago. He gave some standard answers on his development over the past 2 years. When asked about EJ, he deflected blame to route running, blocking schemes, etc rather than to flat out say he sucks. What was intriguing though was that woods hinted at a lack of coaching and leadership that may have affected EJ. He said that EJ was thrown in last year without a mentor. Was this a knock at coaching?? An admission that kolb was supposed to be that guy? That coaching sucks? Either way, he admitted that EJ was and is not ready. He's obviously excited for orton because of his "command". I can't help to read between the lines in that woods admitted that EJ was not ready, orton is better, and EJ was not prepared and put in a position to succeed. Intersting thoughts.... Hope woods continues to develop!
YoloinOhio Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 Woods was on NFL Radio on Sirius about 2 hours ago. He gave some standard answers on his development over the past 2 years. When asked about EJ, he deflected blame to route running, blocking schemes, etc rather than to flat out say he sucks. What was intriguing though was that woods hinted at a lack of coaching and leadership that may have affected EJ. He said that EJ was thrown in last year without a mentor. Was this a knock at coaching?? An admission that kolb was supposed to be that guy? That coaching sucks? Either way, he admitted that EJ was and is not ready. He's obviously excited for orton because of his "command". I can't help to read between the lines in that woods admitted that EJ was not ready, orton is better, and EJ was not prepared and put in a position to succeed. Intersting thoughts.... Hope woods continues to develop! i think Woods was stating what the Bills basically have already admitted as an organization. They hired a QB coach this year and I believe came out and said they should have had one last year, and that they tried to being in a vet in Kolb for EJ to learn from and it didn't work out due to his injury. I think they said this week that they didn't intend him to be thrown in there. I didn't hear the woods interview, but nothing that you relayed sounds surprising.
K-9 Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 I didn't want to say it but "it is okay to fall in love with the superstar" (assuming that he is yours). We aren't used to having them but all signs point to Sammy becoming one. Woods has lots of likable qualities (mainly toughness). He is a leader type with a good deal of talent. It just isn't the same. Sammy may be a superstar, but he's as blue-collar as it gets. NOBODY outworks this kid. While others in his draft class were meeting with agents and picking out suits, he was setting up cones on a field and running routes all by himself, trying to work out kinks on various routes because he wasn't happy with it. He runs EVERY practice rep like it's his last. And you if you're a DB in practice, you better come prepared to bring it or he's gonna embarrass you. That makes them better by extension. It's a shame he hurt his ribs because he hasn't displayed the reckless abandon he showed in college to this point. But it's just a matter of time. GO BILLS!!!
Gugny Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 Sammy may be a superstar, but he's as blue-collar as it gets. NOBODY outworks this kid. While others in his draft class were meeting with agents and picking out suits, he was setting up cones on a field and running routes all by himself, trying to work out kinks on various routes because he wasn't happy with it. He runs EVERY practice rep like it's his last. And you if you're a DB in practice, you better come prepared to bring it or he's gonna embarrass you. That makes them better by extension. It's a shame he hurt his ribs because he hasn't displayed the reckless abandon he showed in college to this point. But it's just a matter of time. GO BILLS!!! Hater.
Kellyto83TD Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 outplay sammy watkins. Orton likes slot receivers and personally, I think woods is better overall than watkins. Ok stop... just stop. Woods doesn't have anywhere near the talent Watkins does period. That said I love woods, but not on watkins level talent wise
Freddie's Dead Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 Given how few opportunities the WR's have had for YAC, I'm expecting them to play angry on Sunday. I really feel an upset coming on. I wonder if Detroit understands the extent to which a sleeping giant may have just been stirred. OK Yamamoto. It's put up or shut up time for the receivers. They wanted EJ gone, he's gone. We need to see some of that terrible resolve now.
K-9 Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 Hater. Who loves ya, man? Now, go forth and try to be erudite again. Something lacking by you in this thread. GO BILLS!!!
Dragonborn10 Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 Woods is the Bills' Welker. Watkins has the potential to be Julio Jones. I would be fine with Woods getting more catches if it opens things up for bigger plays from Watkins.
NoSaint Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 I didn't want to say it but "it is okay to fall in love with the superstar" (assuming that he is yours). We aren't used to having them but all signs point to Sammy becoming one. Woods has lots of likable qualities (mainly toughness). He is a leader type with a good deal of talent. It just isn't the same. It's great to have Woods as your favorite player. He is everything that you want in a core guy. It's just crazy to think that he is the better player. I think your point is spot on- heaven forbid we have a special one, in addition to a very good one.
zazie Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 Maybe Goodwin will notch his first catch. This is Hogan time! easley also may finally break through, get catch #3.
starrymessenger Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 That is safely in the realm of "minority opinion." I get the impression many don't fully understand how rare a talent Watkins really is. I can't wait until he's 100% physically. He'll be trucking LBs and DBs instead of protecting himself out there. GO BILLS!!! Agree. Woods is a very good slot/#2. Watkins has an option on greatness. Different order of magnitude.
The Jokeman Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 (edited) I'm a huge Robert Woods fan, think the guy is an absolute stud WR and will have a long career in the League. It'll be fun to see Sammy and Robert compete for the next few years -- but in terms of pure talent, Sammy has it over Woods. Agreed short term I think Robert Woods is going to be better than Watkins say the next two seasons but when Watkins finally puts it all together in his 3rd year (like most WRs do) look out. Edited October 2, 2014 by The Jokeman
3rdand12 Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 Given how few opportunities the WR's have had for YAC, I'm expecting them to play angry on Sunday. I really feel an upset coming on. I wonder if Detroit understands the extent to which a sleeping giant may have just been stirred. I have just begun to read this collection and made it to Big Cats post .Hell yes . thats all for now. i will continue to read through here. But thats really my attitude BC. YAC ! Mark my words.
NoSaint Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 (edited) Agreed short term I think Robert Woods is going to be better than Watkins say the next two seasons but when Watkins finally puts it all together in his 3rd year (like most WRs do) look out. Watkins is already putting up better numbers- the expectations are so high that people don't realize he's having a pretty decent year Edited October 2, 2014 by NoSaint
3rdand12 Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 Sammy possesses the raw ability to be dynamic in the slot, with potential to be great.....and I'm talking taking the position to a level higher than Welker in his prime in NE. He has the rare athltetesim to be more of a threat after the catch than Welker did, and he was pretty good himself. But Watkins also brings the ability to break tackles...this is another difference he brings to the slot position. He can also be a deep threat WR. So he's more versatile than Woods, or has the quick potential to be. I like Woods more as an intermediate threat...and possession receiver. His route running is way more crisp than Watkins at this point. Both have different skills to bring to an offense. Its a good mix to have. aint that a blessing !?
The Jokeman Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 Watkins is already putting up better numbers- the expectations are so high that people don't realize he's having a pretty decent year I felt we should be happy if we got 40 catches 500 yards and 3 TDs from Watkins for the season and appears he'll surpass that which to me means he was a good pick. That said if we end up giving up the Browns a top 10 pick it won't make me happy. Yet if the Browns end up with a 16 or lower pick I'm okay with it.
3rdand12 Posted October 2, 2014 Posted October 2, 2014 Woods looks like he'll be one of those guys who isn't the fastest, strongest, or tallest, but his mentality will drive him to be great. Sammy has the measurables on Woods, but Woods has a killer instinct. But i too agree ! Woods is one tough SOB . how great could the Williams Watkins Woods Goodwin combo be for a diverse set of WRs if ...
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