negativo Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 No, but the heinous competition in the AFC East has me a little positivo.
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 No, especially if the play calling remains so mediocre. Why were they abandoning the run at common sense times? You have two of the best RB's in the conference, while JJ Watt is living in our backfield, what do you do? Exactly. The Giants ran for like 200 yards last week. Hackett isn't good enough. He's never been a NFL coach and we trusted him to develop a young qb. Crazy.
LabattBlue Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 (edited) Has anyone ever seen Orton play? He is a dink and dunk master. Ask Bear and Bronco fans what they think about him. He is the master of driving down the field and settling for field goals. I swear some people are thinking of the wrong qb. Orton is completely average. Nothing more, nothing less. Teams will play him like they play Fitz. Take away short stuff and force him to throw deep. He struggles big time to do that. You mean our backup QB is not a perennial pro bowler who can make all the throws? I'm shocked. You know what I will settle for? A guy who can actually be ACCURATE when throwing short to intermediate range passes. That would be a major step up in play from what we have witnessed recently. Edited September 30, 2014 by LabattBlue
Captain Hindsight Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 Not at all. I want the QB carousel to end. This makes me less excited for the Bills' future. I don't disagree with the decision, but wish it never had to be made. This is not exciting. It's depressing. This^ We didn't trade for Peyton Manning, we put in Orton. 5 teams in 10 years and a 500 record. I'm not sure excitement is the right word to be using
Drifter Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 I'm not looking for pro bowl play. I just want someone to hit the guys running wide open down the field. Manuel didn't see or missed WRs too often
FluffHead Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 (edited) He had D Thomas and Decker in Denver, went 1-4, & lost his job to Tebow. Rookie versions of those guys. We will finally be able to see what these WRs can do with a quarterback who will put catchable balls out there without sabotaging the YAC Edited September 30, 2014 by FluffHead
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 You mean our backup QB is not a perennial pro bowler who can make all the throws? I'm shocked. You know what I will settle for? A guy who can actually be ACCURATE when throwing short to intermediate range passes. That would be a major step up in play from what we have witnessed recently. That's the point. He is a good backup but we know what he is. We don't know what EJ is. We are complaining about EJ putting up 17 points on the road. That is what Orton has done for the majority of his career. Rookie versions of those guys. We will finally be able to see what these WRs can do with a quarterback who will put catchable balls out there without sabotaging the YAC Our best wr is a rookie. And we would be really lucky to have anyone come close to Decker's production. Orton had weapons. He is what he is.
LabattBlue Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 He is what he is. You don't know that he can't be better in Buffalo than his previous NFL stops? Maybe the last couple of years as a backup have been a wake-up call? Maybe he will find this system to be a good fit for him? ...or maybe he will stink it up? I don't know for sure, and neither do you! But if he can be accurate and decisive, that will be a 100% improvement over Manuel whose head is completely messed up.
LeGOATski Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 You don't know that he can't be better in Buffalo than his previous NFL stops? Maybe the last couple of years as a backup have been a wake-up call? Maybe he will find this system to be a good fit for him? ...or maybe he will stink it up? I don't know for sure, and neither do you! But if he can be accurate and decisive, that will be a 100% improvement over Manuel whose head is completely messed up. And the wheel keeps on turnin'
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 I was really getting bored with the Bills. Figured this EJ needs time to learn, it takes at lest 5 years to develop a QB thing etc would go on for year after year, lose after lose. Now I feel the division is in reach NOW. Not 2015, now. NE is plainly in decline, the jets and fins are worthless. It's the Bills year with this EJ yoke off our neck. GO KC. yes but it really depends on how he does.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 it's like prying off an uncomfortable pair of shoes that aren't broken in yet, and slipping on a dirty old pair with broken laces and holes in their soles. the pain will be replaced by embarrassment Yes- that is exactly what it is like.
LabattBlue Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 And the wheel keeps on turnin' ...at least the wheel is moving again. You had a broken axle up until the announcement was made this afternoon.
Jim in Anchorage Posted September 30, 2014 Author Posted September 30, 2014 yes but it really depends on how he does. Yes but it's a fresh start. Maybe I will not be so excited later but for now I am pumped.
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 You don't know that he can't be better in Buffalo than his previous NFL stops? Maybe the last couple of years as a backup have been a wake-up call? Maybe he will find this system to be a good fit for him? ...or maybe he will stink it up? I don't know for sure, and neither do you! But if he can be accurate and decisive, that will be a 100% improvement over Manuel whose head is completely messed up. What's more likely - the 31 year old improves or the 23 year old improves? They both might not improve. But we didn't draft Orton with a 1st round pick. EJ should have had a longer leash. Especially when the backup is not a great qb himself.
Brandon Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 A sense of excitement? Not really. The Bills have had a revolving door at QB for most of the last fifteen years. I expect this one to make as much difference as the others. Good luck to Orton, he'll need it.
KOKBILLS Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 (edited) Not excited at all...We are forced to sit our #1 pick from last year because he's not getting the job done at QB, and we don't have a #1 next year...Plus I have my doubts about Orton long-term...Short term he should be a slight improvement...But enough to be a difference? We'll see... Plus I kind of feel bad for EJ...He's really a good kid...He just can't get the accuracy thing right...And unless he fixes that he's all but done in this league... Edited September 30, 2014 by KOKBILLS
KOKBILLS Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 What's more likely - the 31 year old improves or the 23 year old improves? They both might not improve. But we didn't draft Orton with a 1st round pick. EJ should have had a longer leash. Especially when the backup is not a great qb himself. I agree... I think the coaches are panicking a bit...I also think they see the plays EJ just misses because of his accuracy issues and it's driving them nuts...
A Dog Named Kelso Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 He had D Thomas and Decker in Denver, went 1-4, & lost his job to Tebow. Because the defense was playing horrible ... context matters. I mean how can you not be pumped up. We got a .500 qb, who lost jobs to Grossman and Tebow, and who has a career QB rating that is one point better than EJ's!!! Who cares about developing a young qb when you might get to 8-8!!!! Why does it have to be either or? People believe this team is good enough to make the playoffs with just competent QB play. EJ was not providing that Orton probably will. Would you be happier if they spent the year "Developing" EJ and going 6-10 again? Then deciding he still needs time? He can still develop just not under center. It used to be done that way for years.
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 Because the defense was playing horrible ... context matters. Why does it have to be either or? People believe this team is good enough to make the playoffs with just competent QB play. EJ was not providing that Orton probably will. Would you be happier if they spent the year "Developing" EJ and going 6-10 again? Then deciding he still needs time? He can still develop just not under center. It used to be done that way for years. They averaged 21 points per game. http://www.nfl.com/player/kyleorton/2506444/profile. The Bills are averaging just under 20 this year.
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