mitchmurraydowntown Posted September 29, 2014 Author Posted September 29, 2014 (edited) The answer is, probably yes. Whether he's better right now that everyone else is not the only thing that matters. If the Bills thought EJ was as good today as he's going to get, he'd deserve to be cut. They look at him as a red-shirt rookie, who is learning as he goes, and they see enough potential to keep him on the field even if he costs the team wins that they could reasonably get with an average QB. So the reason he would probably start for other teams is that they have immediate AND longer term needs, and they're looking ahead. They won't get to even see him get better because they'll be gone by then. If he does get better (he won't), it'll be several years & several WR's careers over by then. Lets ask Marquis how he feels, I'd be willing to bet if unleashed the answer would be quite harsh. I do more than that: I really really really watch them. Thank you for your concern. I'm sure the TV's on, so I guess that's good enough. First QB since Brady Quinn to have a QBR under 10 in consecutive full games. So he's got that going for him also. I just looked it up, QB #31 has about a 40% higher rating. That's not a gap, that's an ocean away. Worst starting QB in the league by far using this metric. Edited September 29, 2014 by mitchmurraydowntown
Campy Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 (edited) I'm sure the TV's on, so I guess that's good enough. I already told you, I really really really watch the games. Pro tip 1: Don't ask a subjective or hypothetical question if you are unwilling (or unable) to respect opinions that run contrary to your own. Just state your own opinion and move on. Pro tip 2: People who infer they have some sort of deeper understanding of the game than fellow posters generally don't. Furthermore, those people are often considered opinionated blowhards not to be taken seriously. If a poster knows his stuff, it will show without the need to imply others do not. Hope that helps. Go Bills. Edited September 29, 2014 by Campy
Dorkington Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 (edited) Nope. And he might even struggle to land a #2. That being said, some team would take a chance on developing him, and with the proper coaching and play calling, he'd be fine. Edited September 29, 2014 by Dorkington
mitchmurraydowntown Posted September 29, 2014 Author Posted September 29, 2014 I already told you, I really really really watch the games. Pro tip 1: Don't ask a subjective or hypothetical question if you are unwilling (or unable) to respect opinions that run contrary to your own. Just state your own opinion and move on. Pro tip 2: People who infer they have some sort of deeper understanding of the game than fellow posters generally don't. Furthermore, those people are often considered opinionated blowhards not to be taken seriously. If a poster knows his stuff, it will show without the need to imply others do not. Hope that helps. Go Bills. Nice response. You brought up valid points but just to be clear, I'd like justification instead of just names. Why are those QB's not as good... ETC. Snide little comments inferring whether or not I know what I'm talking about isn't germane of the situation.
NoSaint Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 if released, probably not a situation hed step into immediately. if he was drafted by another team - pretty good chance theyd be letting him play
HeHateMe Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 No one else in a position calling the shots would make such an awful error in judging talent.
FistingBot Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 EJ seems to spend most of his time trying to avoid negative plays rather than seeking positive "winning" plays. There is a big difference in mentality between the two. I think the comparison to post-concussion Trent is a good one at this point.
Campy Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 Nice response. You brought up valid points but just to be clear, I'd like justification instead of just names. Why are those QB's not as good... ETC. Snide little comments inferring whether or not I know what I'm talking about isn't germane of the situation. This is bizarre. You asked if I "even watched the games" and then said you meant if I "really watch." And you don't consider that snide but my reply that I "really really really" watch was? Good grief... As for justification, it's because EJ has a much bigger upside than those guys despite, in a few instances, having far fewer starts.
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 No, I am not being a homer. Yes, EJ could start for another team.
RyanC883 Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 (edited) I'm not talking draft or commitments of any kind, like you're talking (on your own). If EJ was presented to another team without any obligations, would be be that team's starting QB ? Don't over-think this, just answer the question. nope. He would not start for any team over their current starting QB. Edited September 29, 2014 by RyanC883
Storm Front Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 I've said it before: Jeff Tuel will have a longer NFL career than EJ.
BillsInMaine Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 Wors QB in league. http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=afceast&id=72362&src=desktop&rand=ref~%7B%22ref%22%3A%22https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F%22%7D
FireChan Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 One week ago he was the second best QB in the division.
Offside Number 76 Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 Any team that drafted him would still be playing him. He's a QB and it is simply too early to write him off. Or to call him the next all-star.
BuffaloPride Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 Tannehill played a good game yesterday. He knows he's playing for his job. Maybe thats what Manuel needs. Marrone said before he likes players to have a chip on their shoulders. EJ has been coddled ever since he got here. I would bench him right now and make him earn his way back. At the very least they could give Orton more snaps in practice to send a message that they are considering making a change.
Bangarang Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 No, I am not being a homer. Yes, EJ could start for another team. I'm not saying you're wrong but who else would he start for and be an upgrade?
billykaykay Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 Yes. The Jets would start him if they drafted him. So would Miami, Cleveland, Oakland, and St Louis. Or would you prefer Geno Smith, Ryan Tannehill, Bryan Hoyer, Derek Carr, or Shaun Hill over EJ? Yes to each & every one of them.
Best Player Available Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 A QBR yesterday of 7.4 awesome. ranked 35th in the league of only 32 starters. if he puts his nose to the grindstone I predict he could hit a QBR of 10 against the fish. Well close it will be an away game. is JP still working out? What an upgrade that would be. Go Dougs!!!!
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