prissythecat Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 He has a ring. He is elite Brees is indeed elite. But having a superbowl ring is not a primary criteria for elite QBs. Trent Dilfer has a ring for instance. Jeff Hostetler too unfortunately.
Prickly Pete Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/saints-let-bunch-players-sign-195900134.html
PromoTheRobot Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/saints-let-bunch-players-sign-195900134.html How you build a winner...cut your productive no-names and make a big splash in free agency.
Kirby Jackson Posted September 30, 2014 Author Posted September 30, 2014 (edited) http://finance.yahoo.com/news/saints-let-bunch-players-sign-195900134.html That's pretty funny. Everyone was talking junk to me down here after the Saints signed him. I said, "he isn't good against the run and is a step slow over the top. He has good instincts and is smart but he's not Earl Thomas." Byrd is good but not great. He has some physical limitations. Aaron Williams will be the better player IMO. AW does everything well. Edited September 30, 2014 by Kirby Jackson
bbb Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 I thought he became very good against the run a few years ago. Made a ton of open field tacklers.........But, that seemed to wane.
Prickly Pete Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 Yeah, it appears that the Saints have passed their "sell by" date. And they just gutted the team to get Byrd.
bbb Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 http://finance.yahoo...-195900134.html I love this.
Nitro Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 Byrd is a ball hawk but tackling and run support was not his strong points.
Prickly Pete Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 I love this. Yeah, it feels pretty good.
truth on hold Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 http://finance.yahoo...-195900134.html that article communicates why you cant view these big contracts in isolation, most fans fail to see the trade-offs
Nanker Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 http://finance.yahoo...-195900134.html "For better or worse, this is the team they have to work with for the next few years." Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of yahoos.
YoloinOhio Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 (edited) http://finance.yahoo.com/news/saints-let-bunch-players-sign-195900134.html Wow. I didn't understand the signing for NO then and it looks worse now. Not because Byrd isn't worth what a team is willing to pay him, but because of the +/- that went into the decision on players. The saints could very well turn it around as their division is wide open, but unless they have home field through the playoffs, if they do make it, they will be on the same spot they were last year and stuck with that massive contract. Their defense was painful to watch the other night. There are HS teams that tackle better. Edited September 30, 2014 by YoloinOhio
NoSaint Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 (edited) Wow. I didn't understand the signing for NO then and it looks worse now. Not because Byrd isn't worth what a team is willing to pay him, but because of the +/- that went into the decision on players. The saints could very well turn it around as their division is wide open, but unless they have home field through the playoffs, if they do make it, they will be on the same spot they were last year and stuck with that massive contract. Their defense was painful to watch the other night. There are HS teams that tackle better. jenkins and harper rated out as one of the worst safety duos in the league and sproles is a 31 year old back that didnt have a good season last year. moore (and sproles really) was replaced by cooks. we had these same talks back in march - i dont think saints fans are upset at all that harper and jenkins are gone - even if they have played well for 4 weeks. even without byrd you mightve seen all those moves. Edited September 30, 2014 by NoSaint
Kirby Jackson Posted September 30, 2014 Author Posted September 30, 2014 jenkins and harper rated out as one of the worst safety duos in the league and sproles is a 31 year old back that didnt have a good season last year. moore (and sproles really) was replaced by cooks. we had these same talks back in march - i dont think saints fans are upset at all that harper and jenkins are gone - even if they have played well for 4 weeks. even without byrd you mightve seen all those moves. Especially Harper!!! Roman Harper is to the Saints as Chris Watson was to the Bills.
YoloinOhio Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 Their defense looked better last year. Maybe it's a coaching issue, since the guys they let go suddenly look good.
NoSaint Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 Their defense looked better last year. Maybe it's a coaching issue, since the guys they let go suddenly look good. the guys they let go have struggled under multiple coordinators. roman harper is slow for a linebacker. him having a big play (td) doesnt equate to him playing good suddenly. he had big plays here occasionally too, but at the expense of giving them up often.
Cleveland Rocks? Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 Saints D is horrible. They couldn't even stop Hoyer and our band of misfit WRs, missing Cameron and Tate.
Johnny Hammersticks Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 Yes, Terremce Williams thanks him for looking so darn good. You don't have a clue do you? Did you watch those plays?
Bills Fan in MD Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 I have a few things to say on this topic, but need to spend some time replying to the threads on Da'rick Rogers and Ryan Fitzpatrick. P.S. Has anyone seen the Aaron Maybin thread lately?
26CornerBlitz Posted October 1, 2014 Posted October 1, 2014 The Saints Let Go Of A Bunch Of Players To Sign A $54-Million Free Agent, And It's Coming Back To Haunt Them: https://finance.yaho...-195900134.html The New Orleans Saints went into free agency in March with virtually no cap room. They came out of free agency with the consensus No. 1 free agent, Buffalo Bills safety Jairus Byrd, who they signed on a six-year, $54-million contract. They were able to pull this off because of two things: 1) they backloaded the money in Byrd's contract, which could be crippling down the line, but lets them stay under the salary cap this year, and 2) they traded, cut, or let a number of role players leave in free agency.
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