Hazed and Amuzed Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 Spiller and Fred. Those are the only offensive players that can walk off the field with their head held high. Manuel was bad, but the rest of the O sure didn't help him. The OLine sucked, the receivers REALLY sucked and the Chandler is terrible. Mike Williams dropped a beautiful pass, Sammy had the ball hit him right in the hands unfortunately a few times(he's been terrible the last 2 weeks, TD or not) I guess he still isn't trying. Robert Woods looked lost a few times. Sorry to break it but WR is not a strength. If Stevie had dropped those same passes this board would be back logged. The whole offense makes me sick, coaching and all. While everyone sits here and blames EJ(myself included) they need to look at sorry ass Watkins, Williams and the rest of them.
NoSaint Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 Because today ej was your house burning down and your asking to be upset about the cable company not broadcasting in hd and the light in the fridge being out. In the grand scheme, it's all ej and Hackett today.
fridge Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 Because today ej was your house burning down and your asking to be upset about the cable company not broadcasting in hd and the light in the fridge being out. In the grand scheme, it's all ej and Hackett today. That's one way to overreact. On the whole, OP is 100% right. When EJ made the plays no one bailed him out. When we needed the line to come up big, they collapsed. It's not making excuses, but you just can't be practical and rest the whole loss on EJ. Sorry.
Andrew Son Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 Ej took an absolute beating today. Line was terrible
NoSaint Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 That's one way to overreact. On the whole, OP is 100% right. When EJ made the plays no one bailed him out. When we needed the line to come up big, they collapsed. It's not making excuses, but you just can't be practical and rest the whole loss on EJ. Sorry. Today's game was. There were issues all around, but today was him at 1, 2 and 3 of the biggest issues.
fridge Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 Today's game was. There were issues all around, but today was him at 1, 2 and 3 of the biggest issues. How do you figure? Explain.
DC Tom Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 Our star rookie receiver couldn't catch a cold today. By the same standard by which QB is measured, we now need to consider drafting a #1 receiver next year.
Hazed and Amuzed Posted September 29, 2014 Author Posted September 29, 2014 Today's game was. There were issues all around, but today was him at 1, 2 and 3 of the biggest issues. He wouldn't have been 1, 2 or 3 if 4, 5 and 6 were worth a damn. Our star rookie receiver couldn't catch a cold today. By the same standard by which QB is measured, we now need to consider drafting a #1 receiver next year. ding ding ding
Mango Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 I was proud of EJ today.ast week the pressure rattled him and he played awful all game. Yes he left plays out there, but the kid got knocked around stood strong and delivered some quick balls and the WRs didn't help bail him out. This game is as much on Ej as it is the OL and WRs. The kid made the adjustment for his biggest issue and his young wr corp did little to nothing to help him out. I think posters are underestimating the beating the kid took.
Hazed and Amuzed Posted September 29, 2014 Author Posted September 29, 2014 I was proud of EJ today.ast week the pressure rattled him and he played awful all game. Yes he left plays out there, but the kid got knocked around stood strong and delivered some quick balls and the WRs didn't help bail him out. This game is as much on Ej as it is the OL and WRs. The kid made the adjustment for his biggest issue and his young wr corp did little to nothing to help him out. I think posters are underestimating the beating the kid took. Agreed. And many posters on here will call this an EJ apologists thread, which it's not. No one is giving him a pass. However Watkins has been garbage the last 2 games and yet no one is noticing.
NoSaint Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 How do you figure? Explain. Even his completions were generally poorly thrown balls. and that's ignoring the really ugly ones. He didn't seem to have much confidence in his own arm, legs, or decision making - and as a result had no platform to step up as a leader and demand more from the team. Sammy flubbing the 4 yard slant is a light out in the fridge. Your qb averaging 3 yards an attempt 30 some odd throws into the game is the house burning down (and that's letting the pick 6 go).
JC2002 Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 An offense has only as much swagger as its QB . The issue is that the running backs can only do so much the QB is the leader of the offense and when you are trying to develop young receivers ball placement and reliability are important . I just don't think EJ is ready he does not suck but the team needs things from him that hes simply not able to give them right now
Mango Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 Agreed. And many posters on here will call this an EJ apologists thread, which it's not. No one is giving him a pass. However Watkins has been garbage the last 2 games and yet no one is noticing. There was a some bonkers stat from the first quarter. Something 7 drop backs, 2 sacks, and 4 QB hits. That's insane. Considering that was basically the entire game, he did OK. I give EJ a C- today. He fixed the most glaring issue with his game from last week and the pressure. Missed some plays for sure. Played tough in tough conditions, some missteps from the WRs.
FireChan Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 I'm giving the rest of the offense a pass because it was clear EJ couldn't get one to them!
BADOLBILZ Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 Agreed. And many posters on here will call this an EJ apologists thread, which it's not. No one is giving him a pass. However Watkins has been garbage the last 2 games and yet no one is noticing. I think most of us recognize what is going on. The team is getting fed up with EJ and it is affecting their play. We've seen this over and over for 14 years. It's why there is a culture of losing. Frustration from poor QB play snowballs.
Hazed and Amuzed Posted September 29, 2014 Author Posted September 29, 2014 I think most of us recognize what is going on. The team is getting fed up with EJ and it is affecting their play. We've seen this over and over for 14 years. It's why there is a culture of losing. Frustration from poor QB play snowballs. So Watkins sucks because EJ does? Got it.
JPS Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 So Watkins sucks because EJ does? Got it. the problem is none of the WRs have any idea where and when the ball is going to come. I know it's frustrating to see drops, but none of them decided the game like the QBs mistakes
Kellyto83TD Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 Spiller and Fred. Those are the only offensive players that can walk off the field with their head held high. Manuel was bad, but the rest of the O sure didn't help him. The OLine sucked, the receivers REALLY sucked and the Chandler is terrible. Mike Williams dropped a beautiful pass, Sammy had the ball hit him right in the hands unfortunately a few times(he's been terrible the last 2 weeks, TD or not) I guess he still isn't trying. Robert Woods looked lost a few times. Sorry to break it but WR is not a strength. If Stevie had dropped those same passes this board would be back logged. The whole offense makes me sick, coaching and all. While everyone sits here and blames EJ(myself included) they need to look at sorry ass Watkins, Williams and the rest of them. Funny the game I watched EJ had time and had wide open WR's and failed to connect or even throw the damn ball. Stop with the QB excuses
Roc Bronson Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 Man how in the world could anyone speak anything but disgust with Manuel. I guess some is simply ok with terrible football. That ol seems to be trying to get him hurt. They know a change is needed.
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