YoloinOhio Posted September 25, 2014 Posted September 25, 2014 Through 3 Games, EJ Manuel is trending upward by Chris Trapasso on September 24, 2014 http://www.trendingbuffalo.com/sports/buffalo-bills/through-3-games-ej-manuel-is-trending-upward/ For those unfamiliar with Trapasso, he is a contributor to NFL.com and other NFL-related sites who does a lot of analysis on teams and players.
Peter Posted September 25, 2014 Posted September 25, 2014 Interesting. EJ is a young QB. He is a work in progress and not a finished product. While there is room for improvement, I do agree that he appears to be headed in the right direction. If we can get better protection up the middle in particular, that should help EJ both in time and space as well as his development. As frustrating as it may be to some, we really have to give EJ some time to see his development.
cage Posted September 25, 2014 Posted September 25, 2014 Well, I certainly like what he's saying. He claims to have looked at every play. I would have liked to see some firmer statistics on each section. I would also be helpful to compare him to 3-4 other successful QBs at this stage of their career. EJs number probably look better than Tannihill (3rd year) and Geno in a side-by-side/
YoloinOhio Posted September 25, 2014 Author Posted September 25, 2014 Well, I certainly like what he's saying. He claims to have looked at every play. I would have liked to see some firmer statistics on each section. I would also be helpful to compare him to 3-4 other successful QBs at this stage of their career. EJs number probably look better than Tannihill (3rd year) and Geno in a side-by-side/ He did this over the summer to compare the rookies of 2013 to other rookie QBs of previous years (and set the 2014 rookie expectations), if that helps: The Rookie QB Expectation Model http://rotoviz.com/2014/07/johnny-manziel-teddy-bridgewater-and-doing-the-math-on-rookie-quarterback-expectations/?utm_content=buffer040bb&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
Mr. WEO Posted September 25, 2014 Posted September 25, 2014 For example, if a defender is running freely at him, he has to evacuate. He looked like he was "evacuating" a lot in the 4th Q. He needs to learn not to crap himself when the pressure comes (from the defense).
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 25, 2014 Posted September 25, 2014 He looked like he was "evacuating" a lot in the 4th Q. He needs to learn not to crap himself when the pressure comes (from the defense). To defend him, it was a jail break all day. Led to him getting happy feet.
Coach Tuesday Posted September 25, 2014 Posted September 25, 2014 To defend him, it was a jail break all day. Led to him getting happy feet. Jail break with first read well-covered. Not a great combination.
Peter Posted September 25, 2014 Posted September 25, 2014 He did this over the summer to compare the rookies of 2013 to other rookie QBs of previous years (and set the 2014 rookie expectations), if that helps: The Rookie QB Expectation Model http://rotoviz.com/2...campaign=buffer That analysis also is very interesting.
Dorkington Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 He did this over the summer to compare the rookies of 2013 to other rookie QBs of previous years (and set the 2014 rookie expectations), if that helps: The Rookie QB Expectation Model http://rotoviz.com/2014/07/johnny-manziel-teddy-bridgewater-and-doing-the-math-on-rookie-quarterback-expectations/?utm_content=buffer040bb&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer This along with the OP are great reads. Thank you guys.
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 He did this over the summer to compare the rookies of 2013 to other rookie QBs of previous years (and set the 2014 rookie expectations), if that helps: The Rookie QB Expectation Model http://rotoviz.com/2...campaign=buffer I thought EJ sucked as a rookie? That's what I keep reading here.
boyst Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 Through 3 Games, EJ Manuel is trending upward by Chris Trapasso on September 24, 2014 http://www.trendingb...rending-upward/ For those unfamiliar with Trapasso, he is a contributor to NFL.com and other NFL-related sites who does a lot of analysis on teams and players. I wish he would stick to this instead of trying to break or pass on news.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 I thought EJ sucked as a rookie? That's what I keep reading here. Yes it true.... But the expertise you'll find here knows better than meaningless stats. They have "it" factor detectors, a metric for eye speed, and an ocular appraisal tool known as the "eyeball test". So yeah he must suck, hopelessly beyond recourse.
Big Turk Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 To defend him, it was a jail break all day. Led to him getting happy feet. Yeah they were having a real problem stopping the twists and stunts the Chargers were bringing
Captain Hindsight Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 Yeah but how does his footwork compare with Jordan Palmers?
Fadingpain Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 This thread inspired me to come up with a new Bills slogan, to be printed above every RWS entrance. "BUFFALO BILLS: TRENDING UPWARD SINCE THE NEW MILLENIUM" Hey, with this "insight" and $4.50, you can get a cup of coffee at Starbucks.
John from Riverside Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 This thread inspired me to come up with a new Bills slogan, to be printed above every RWS entrance. "BUFFALO BILLS: TRENDING UPWARD SINCE THE NEW MILLENIUM" Hey, with this "insight" and $4.50, you can get a cup of coffee at Starbucks. Please tell me what you are trying to say here....because I seriously dont get it
Dawgg Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 Through 3 Games, EJ Manuel is trending upward by Chris Trapasso on September 24, 2014 http://www.trendingb...rending-upward/ For those unfamiliar with Trapasso, he is a contributor to NFL.com and other NFL-related sites who does a lot of analysis on teams and players. Trapasso is a certified idiot. Rabid Bills fan posing as a journalist wannabe.
A Dog Named Kelso Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 (edited) He did this over the summer to compare the rookies of 2013 to other rookie QBs of previous years (and set the 2014 rookie expectations), if that helps: The Rookie QB Expectation Model http://rotoviz.com/2...campaign=buffer This is interesting and shows that EJ is slightly above the mean. However; I would think you would remove QBs who clearly were not competent starters and failed to secure a long term spot. My reasoning is the goal is to see what a QB who turned into a starter number's looked like and base your comparison on those. One could also do the opposite and show what a bad drafts picks numbers would be closer to. Edited September 26, 2014 by A Dog Named Kelso
YoloinOhio Posted September 26, 2014 Author Posted September 26, 2014 Trapasso is a certified idiot. Rabid Bills fan posing as a journalist wannabe. nice insight.
HamSandwhich Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 Yeah they were having a real problem stopping the twists and stunts the Chargers were bringing I hope they can "right the ship" on this issue. Defenses now have the blue print on how to defend the Bills in the trenches. The scary part, it may not be coachable due to the lack of athletesism at the gaurd position. Pears is just not quick enough to see the delayed blitz and was beaten time after time. Trapasso is a certified idiot. Rabid Bills fan posing as a journalist wannabe. Did he slap your mom or something?
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