freeagentqb Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 If he's talking about that pass near the end of the game where if he catches it he was going to get crushed, I'm fine with him alligator arming it. Game was over at that point and he doesn't need to take those shots to haul in a stat-padding pass. I remember that play and it looked like he just knocked it down with one hand. Smart play by him. He would have been killed on the play as deep defenders were rapidly closing in on him and he would have been hit harder than Goodwin's play. Would have had broken ribs for sure or worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 22, 2014 Author Share Posted September 22, 2014 Sammy will be fine. He admitted it was a mistake. And he admitted that it was his fault. That tells me that he is committed to winning and regrets not giving a better effort. It wasn't like the plays you used to see out of whimps like Randy Moss who would take plays off all the time. agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 perhaps, but I do know that KB had some character issues that made him drop. Maybe they never come to light and he has a great career. It was well known throughout the FOs. character issues seem the rule and not the exception. it must have been something really disturbing as these were the days before ray rice and adrian peterson blew up in the leagues face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Sammy has been playing with a banged up rib. I'm sure some of you have had banged up ribs and know just how hard it is to even breathe sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 22, 2014 Author Share Posted September 22, 2014 (edited) character issues seem the rule and not the exception. it must have been something really disturbing as these were the days before ray rice and adrian peterson blew up in the leagues face. i don't know what it was. But the problem with him having the issues is that it was combined with a slow 40 time for a WR and only one year of good college production, yet age 23 at the time of the draft. He was too raw at route running and focus to give the benefit of the doubt. Despite all of that he still went fairly high due to things you can't teach. Size and the ability to draw extra coverage. He was expected to be a project, thus far he has exceeded that. Edited September 22, 2014 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazed and Amuzed Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Watkins looked lost and confused yesterday from what I saw. He looked disoriented. Â I'm not giving him a pass, he's a rookie and he's accomplished absolutely nothing in this league. He should be out there busting his ass on every play. He's not Randy Moss, he's not Megatron, he's not anybody special... YET. He's earned no right to take plays off. I didn't see Fred taking plays off at the end of the game. That attitude is infectious, if he wants to be a leader he needs to start acting like one. I hope Fred and Wood pull this kid aside and give him a verbal ass whooping. Â BTW it's his JOB to catch passes and he gets payed nicely to do his job, and when he doesn't do his job he has 53 guys to let down. I could care less if the pass was inaccurate. YOU PLAY BALL, people are counting on you. People that bust their ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtDart Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 lol, every post gets turned into an EJ sucks thread. Â I'm concerned, Yolo. Concerned that EJ sucks and that even this mistake of Sammy's is on EJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delusional Bills Optimist Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Â I remember that play and it looked like he just knocked it down with one hand. Smart play by him. He would have been killed on the play as deep defenders were rapidly closing in on him and he would have been hit harder than Goodwin's play. Would have had broken ribs for sure or worse. Â That was exactly my reaction. If I'm recalling the correct play, Sammy seemed to spike the ball down with the defender closing quickly. I believe my exact words were, "if he doesn't do that, it's six going the other way." I actually thought it was a savvy play, that kept the small flicker of hope we had alive. Â I am way more concerned that we can't consistently put the ball in spots where our WRs can catch it in stride, or at least where they won't get their heads taken off if they do manage to reel it in. Yesterday, I found myself telling myself that EJ just needs more practice throwing into the RWS wind. I am a delusional optimist after all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Watkins looked lost and confused yesterday from what I saw. He looked disoriented. Â I'm not giving him a pass, he's a rookie and he's accomplished absolutely nothing in this league. He should be out there busting his ass on every play. He's not Randy Moss, he's not Megatron, he's not anybody special... YET. He's earned no right to take plays off. I didn't see Fred taking plays off at the end of the game. That attitude is infectious, if he wants to be a leader he needs to start acting like one. I hope Fred and Wood pull this kid aside and give him a verbal ass whooping. Â BTW it's his JOB to catch passes and he gets payed nicely to do his job, and when he doesn't do his job he has 53 guys to let down. I could care less if the pass was inaccurate. YOU PLAY BALL, people are counting on you. People that bust their ass. Â Â im pretty sure he just owned up to it and said he was disappointed in himself for having it happen. your post would be much more applicable to a guy that blew off questions about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Wise beyond his years and, IMO, sends a message about the Receivers faith in Manual's accuracy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 22, 2014 Author Share Posted September 22, 2014 (edited) Wise beyond his years and, IMO, sends a message about the Receivers faith in Manual's accuracy.. i could not disagree more. He is playing his third game for a team that drafted him to make catches thrown to him. He didn't catch the ball because he wasn't where he was supposed to be on purpose. He owned up to it, but his job is to catch the ball. It doesn't send a message about anything other than he needs to run his whole route. Â It was amazing how he threw himself the ball for 100+ yards though last week. Edited September 22, 2014 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokinES3 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 (edited) Wise beyond his years and, IMO, sends a message about the Receivers faith in Manual's accuracy.. I'm attempting to stay positive and hope EJ's accuracy improves, but I agree, the receivers looked tentative after Goodwin was blown up. Coupled with the rib injury I was also glad he didn't attempt to catch it. When even screen passes that total 5 yards in distance are 4 feet high consistently you start to hope it's a nervousness or confidence thing. If not, the Bills are in trouble. Â Edited September 22, 2014 by SmokinES3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 EJ has taken his entire NFL career off so lay off Sammy Crusader. Â This isn't an EJ Sucks thread, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Why not take a play off (in disgust) when your quarterback cannot get you the ball, even when you're wide open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchmurraydowntown Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4Cse1d2IXA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 22, 2014 Author Share Posted September 22, 2014 Why not take a play off (in disgust) when your quarterback cannot get you the ball, even when you're wide open. because he was trying to get him the ball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I think I know the play...it was a crossing route that EJ took a lot of grief from the announcers booth where Sammy got his head around late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazed and Amuzed Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Why not take a play off (in disgust) when your quarterback cannot get you the ball, even when you're wide open. Â Absolutely the worst attitude a player can have, ESPECIALLY A ROOKIE who's done nothing. I'm glad he owned up to it but action is where it's at. He can own up all he wants, let's see if his attitude changes. The only way we'll now is if he starts leaving it all out on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 22, 2014 Author Share Posted September 22, 2014 I do not think Sammy is healthy and it is making him uncharacteristically tentative. It also showed last week. It could be an issue for a good portion of the year. With this type of condition, it can't get worse by playing. But it won't fully "heal" for awhile. They will need to coach to this from a number of angles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Slightly. If it's a sign that the WRs know EJ's throws will get them killed then it could become an issue. This... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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