BillsFan-4-Ever Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 yes, they had a bad day. against The team that whooped up on the Defending SB Champs the week before!!!
BuffaloBillsForever Posted September 22, 2014 Author Posted September 22, 2014 yes, they had a bad day. against The team that whooped up on the Defending SB Champs the week before!!! My concerns with McKelvin and Gilmore are not just because of the San Diego performance. I was a Gilmore supporter until today. He is average at best right now and possibly the 3rd or 4th best corner on the team. The thing about Gilmore for 2014 is that he didn't play well in training camp, preseason and now it has carried over into the regular season.
PromoTheRobot Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 A good QB makes CBs look bad. I think the expectations here are a little unrealistic as to what a CB is supposed to do. You could have the greatest DBs ever but WRs will still get open at times. If have a great QB with the skill to see that there isn't much you can do.
bigK14094 Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 I heard McKelvin quoted in the paper....said that both he and gilmore both had off season "hip" surgery, and that neither totally has his legs under him yet.......Maybe......but.......possible they could yet get into game shape.
billsfan714 Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 With regards to Gilmore and McKelvin, the next pro bowl either one of these former first round picks goes to....they'll have tickets.
Best Player Available Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 McKelvin has been terrible pretty much his entire career and Gilmore has been simply average and starting off the 2014 year in an atrocious fashion. These guys need to pick up their game big time. McKelvin had a single OK year. last year. When some anointed him as having arrived. maybe it was pettine but he is back to what he is. barely adequate and should be benched.
K D Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 Anyone else notice that every time Gilmore allows a big play he pretends like he's hurt? Happened again yesterday. And McKelvin is done. Stick a fork in him, he's useless
BuffaloBillsForever Posted September 22, 2014 Author Posted September 22, 2014 (edited) McKelvin had a single OK year. last year. When some anointed him as having arrived. maybe it was pettine but he is back to what he is. barely adequate and should be benched. It certainly isn't a small sample size in that evaluation with McKelvins deficiencies. With Gilmore lets just hope he can stay healthy. Edited September 22, 2014 by BuffaloBillsForever
DirtDart Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 (edited) With the exception of Corey Graham who has been terrific, we do not have a viable CB opposite of him. McKelvin is getting torched again for big plays, Gilmore is a holding machine, average in coverage and atrocious in the open field. I like Robey, great tackler/playmaker but overall his size is a concern. Brooks is simply depth. Was Graham hurt today? Didn't see him much out there. Not sure whether Marone was trying to be coy, he stated in his post game that he was rotating them through. Corey Graham has been the one bright spot, no idea why he isn't starting opposite Gilmore. Our backend has been porous. Edited September 22, 2014 by DirtDart
26CornerBlitz Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 WTH was McKelvin thinking on this play? This is the kind of play that we usually see from an inexperienced CB. Very poor positioning and ball awareness.
ChanOverChin Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 The coaches need to wake up and establish a pecking order for our CBs. We don't have three equal guys!! Graham is our best CB right now. When Gilmore is completely healthy, he is probably #2. McKelvin gets torched regularly or holds or gets called for illegal contact......especailly when it's 3rd and long. No way should he be on the field as much as the other two guys. That has to change..................effective immediately. Robey does a very good job vs the slot receiver. Brooks is definitely #5 on the depth chart. The bottom line................get Graham on the field and keep him on the field at all times.
hondo in seattle Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 I watched the corners too. The pick plays killed us. And Gilmore was a liabilty . That was just horrible Like he unsure where to go especially on the run. aarghh ! I am not writing them all off. This one might be on Schwartz actually It would have been nice if the refs through a flag for this at least once.
Dibs Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 On Saturday we had 3 starting CBs and an awesome nickel CB specialist. Oh what a difference 1 game makes.
TC in St. Louis Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 Rivers was great. Reich called an awesome game. On the bomb over McKelvin, we had no safety help. Reich says he knew that, and that's why he made the call. The guy had half a step and made an incredible catch. They were running picks all day. The first bomb was the result of an effective pick. And on the play where we stopped them, they called holding on us....on a non-hold on the other side of the field. Gave them a first down instead of forcing a punt. They scored after that. It seems that the refs were quick with the flags yesterday. We need to get more pressure on the QB to affect these passes.
26CornerBlitz Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 On Saturday we had 3 starting CBs and an awesome nickel CB specialist. Oh what a difference 1 game makes. Brandon Flowers is better than any CB on the Bills roster. He shut Sammy down yesterday.
BuffaloBillsForever Posted September 22, 2014 Author Posted September 22, 2014 On Saturday we had 3 starting CBs and an awesome nickel CB specialist. Oh what a difference 1 game makes. We had one CB that was playing exceptionally well prior to this game and yes Mckelvin and Gilmore are starting...
Dibs Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 Brandon Flowers is better than any CB on the Bills roster. He shut Sammy down yesterday. That most likely is the case......but it doesn't change the concept that the day before we lost we were widely considered to have 3 starter calibre CBs.
BillsBytheBay Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 I'm not ready to write these guys off just yet. Philip Rivers is a top 5 QB with weapons. Next week we play Fitz, who threw three picks today and lost to the hapless Giants. I like our chances at 3-1. it's not like we were totally out classed. We played sloppy. If half the penalties we committed on offense didn't happen, it would have been closer. I don't think it's an EJ loss at all. I don't blame our secondary entirely either. Team played sloppy.... The good news, is sloppy play can be cleaned up.
BuffaloBillsForever Posted September 22, 2014 Author Posted September 22, 2014 That most likely is the case......but it doesn't change the concept that the day before we lost we were widely considered to have 3 starter calibre CBs. By who?
CountDorkula Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 Gilmore is a good corner. Teams don't throw his way. Look at the targets. Teams are throwing at Grahm and Mckelvin and not at Gilmore. Why is that?
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