RCOHEN13 Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 I like the fact that we're back to having dedicated special teams guys. Sure, I won't be thrilled if there's an injury and we have Chris Hogan playing downs at WR but I'm still happier to have him than TJ Graham overall. Same goes for Boobie Dixon. Bryce Brown is the more promising rusher, but Dixon provides so much in the oft-forgotten third phase. i agree, but with CJ and Freddy healthy, Dixon is better suited to as RB3 and a change of pace back and his superb special teams play. Can't agree with that at all. Kiko is a starter as soon as he's back to full health. He's a perfect WLB in the Schwartz scheme. I believe Brown would be the starting MLB if the Bills don't sign Spikes to an extension. ^^^ this.. but i do hope they do re-sign Spikes. You can never have too many good LB's. I'd love to have Kiko, Spikes, Brown and Bradham and have Bradham and Brown battle for starting gig. Brown would still see time on field with sub packages which are so common nowadays. Rivers is the guy who i could see having trouble seeing field or even making team next yr if Spikes is re-signed. He's a leader, and a winner and has that nasty streak a MLB needs
r00tabaga Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 He hit on Seantrel but whiffed on Cyrus. Great job on Kiko, Woody & Sammy thru draft. Great job on Mike Williams, Spikes & Boobie thru FA. IF EJ PANS OUT.......A+++
Webster Guy Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 Brown has played 100% of snaps through two weeks. Spikes got 15 snaps yesterday. I love Spikes but I don't see a big offer in his future. i think that's due to us getting them in passing situations quickly on most of the possessions. We sub out for the nickel and Spikes takes a seat. If he's on the sidelines it's a good sign that the defense is dictating the game. Because he is one dimensional, maybe you're right about not getting the huge money contract, but he's a defensive captain and a team leader with a very important role. They'll do what it takes to keep him around. He hit on Seantrel but whiffed on Cyrus. Great job on Kiko, Woody & Sammy thru draft. Great job on Mike Williams, Spikes & Boobie thru FA. IF EJ PANS OUT.......A+++ you forgot #20 in FA
zow2 Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 I say the same about Kiko...Getting him back next year will be like drafting an impact player in the first round... Yup, i've been saying that same thing. "With their 1st pick in the 2015 NFL draft, the Buffalo Bills select Kiko Alonso". It just makes me feel better about that whole (no 1st rd pick) situation!
starrymessenger Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 Getting a starting O tackle with swing capability in the 7th round? Excuse me but that's totally ridiculous. I hope they change the reefer rules soon just in case.
BaaadThingsMan Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 Whaley has been very active and made alot of key moves and picks this off season to improve the overall depth and competition levels on the roster. He gives me hope!
mannc Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 (edited) Obviously, landing a starter like Henderson in Rd 7 is a major coup, but there was not a lot of risk associated with that pick. What Whaley really deserves credit for, at least to this point, is taking the huge risk that was the Watkins trade. Watkins is looking like he will be a beast for many years to come and the pick the Browns will be getting in April is worth less every week. Do you think there are an awful lot of Browns fans who would rather have Watkins than a cornerback and a late-first next year? Of course, this could all change, but Whaley is looking very good right now. Edited September 15, 2014 by mannc
BmarvB Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 I've said it before, Doug Whaley is our best shot at returning to glory. Many wanted to crap on him for the Byrd situation, however that's why he gets paid to put together a team an they don't. He's building a winner here, and he's doing it the right way. Good drafts and mixing in just the right free agents. We're on our way back to the top
DirtDart Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 (edited) He gave up that sack to WIllie Young of the Bears and I was concerned going into yesterdays game against Cameron Wake...... Then you never heard Wake's name the whole game Then Willie Young comes out and destroys the RT he is playing against last night on Sunday Night Football Doug Whaley needs to take a bow on this one.......he might have gotten the BEST OFFENSIVE TACKLE IN THE DRAFT with a 7th round pick....... That is some fine GM work there Agreed, he was a great late round pickup. He would have been a first rounder if it weren't for his off field issues as had been previously discussed by Whaley. The coaches , and Henderson also deserve credit for his growth as a player, and dedication to become a better person. Edited September 15, 2014 by DirtDart
boyst Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 (edited) FACT: He and the entire FO will be retained with Pegs. Edited September 15, 2014 by jboyst62
zazie Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 Agreed, but I also think the BILLS approach has had something to do with as well. Not just the coaching, but also the approach the FO took with him when they told him, this is probably your last chance to get it right and then surrounding him with good men and professionals to help him come along and develop not only his game, but his maturity....sometimes, for someone struggling with personal issues a change in scenery is a big help and can advance their personal change all the more...all conjecture at this point, and still a long season to go and hopefully many, many more successful seasons for Henderson with the BILLS, but early signs look promising.... For this guy more than most, Buffalo is the right place to be. Temptations are limited to Applebees as we all know. If he was in Miami or NY or Atlanta, maybe would be more difficult for him to remain focused. According to Beoheim, that is how he always gets a great NYC recruiting class - he tells the mothers there is nothing in Syracuse but study and basketball for their sons. Same principal.
BigBuff423 Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 For this guy more than most, Buffalo is the right place to be. Temptations are limited to Applebees as we all know. If he was in Miami or NY or Atlanta, maybe would be more difficult for him to remain focused. According to Beoheim, that is how he always gets a great NYC recruiting class - he tells the mothers there is nothing in Syracuse but study and basketball for their sons. Same principal. Whatever works!! LOL, but I'm sure having guys like Fred Jackson and Kyle Williams who know what it means to be in the NFL and fly under the radar also greatly helps...good guys, good leaders, hard workers, and productive on Sundays.
klos63 Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 I say the same about Kiko...Getting him back next year will be like drafting an impact player in the first round... so that means we used two draft picks on Kiko?
BuffOrange Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 Hopefully he was on drugs when the Chris Williams deal was inked. Graham is our MVP so far.
Bill from NYC Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 (edited) Getting a starting O tackle with swing capability in the 7th round? Excuse me but that's totally ridiculous. I hope they change the reefer rules soon just in case. Yes, it's next to impossible. As much as Bills Fans have suffered, we have seen the team get Jason Peters for nothing, and now Henderson in round 7. And keep in mind, if any GM knew how well Cordy Glenn would play he would have been a top 5 draft selection. We lucked out there too, big time. EJ is still learning, but he really has a ton of tools. Make no mistake, life for him would be a lot worse without these 2 monster OTs. But as you seem to be, I too am nervous. I cannot imagine just how crazy GMs thought Henderson was for him to last until round 7. I was keying on him for much of the game and the kid is VERY, VERY good. I can't wait to watch Henderson and DJ Fluker on Sunday. Fluker is a flat out monster, SO good that he was drafted at #11 to play RT specifically. It will be lots of fun to compare the two. GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Edited September 16, 2014 by Bill from NYC
billsgpr88 Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 I think the bills not signing Spikes is becoming less and less likely....... Team captain.....is huge on this defense....... Brown will have to remain the understudy for now I think spikes played about 15 snaps last sunday, he's looking like the odd man out at this point. At least against pass first teams (phins abandoned the run once they fell behind and lost moreno)
Garion Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 I've said it before, Doug Whaley is our best shot at returning to glory. Many wanted to crap on him for the Byrd situation, however that's why he gets paid to put together a team an they don't. Great point.
billsgpr88 Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 Kiko may have to earn his starting job back the way Preston Brown is playing. Kiko is second string to no one, you must be hopped up on goofballs
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 We should send some flowers or at least a nice card to the Pats for letting us have Brandon Spikes. after he sacks Brady and sends him into the upper deck seats
8-8 Forever? Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 For Henderson specifically it was less about recognizing his talent (which every team was aware of) and more about willingness to take a risk on him due to off the field concerns (if you consider a flyer on a 7th rounder a big risk) We'll see if he can stay off the bad stuff. Hope someone's with him ( a lot )
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