TC in St. Louis Posted September 7, 2014 Posted September 7, 2014 We watched from Lesters, the Bills Backers locale in St. Louis. So we couldn't hear what the call was. The flag hit Kyle in the face, and there was a hold. They picked up the flag. Why? That had a pretty big impact on that drive. However, the Bills won, and this is the best way for me to celebrate my 60th birthday.
K-9 Posted September 7, 2014 Posted September 7, 2014 What was the deal? Good question. I'm sure that ref had a deal. I've NEVER seen an O holding penalty flag picked up. EVER. That was a chicken-schit call. As were a few others in that game. I've never been one to blame the refs in a game, they are part of it for both teams, but we had to beat them as well as the Bears today. Not easy to do on the road. GO BILLS!!!
Casey D Posted September 7, 2014 Posted September 7, 2014 We watched from Lesters, the Bills Backers locale in St. Louis. So we couldn't hear what the call was. The flag hit Kyle in the face, and there was a hold. They picked up the flag. Why? That had a pretty big impact on that drive. However, the Bills won, and this is the best way for me to celebrate my 60th birthday. No explanation from refs at the time. Marrone said they told him that after further reflection, they did not think the hold (or whatever you call it) warranted a penalty.
26CornerBlitz Posted September 7, 2014 Posted September 7, 2014 That's a new one for me. I've never seen a holding call flag get picked up......NEVER!
K D Posted September 7, 2014 Posted September 7, 2014 So will these refs get their pay docked or what? There were so many terrible calls. A few of the interference calls were baffling
YoloinOhio Posted September 7, 2014 Posted September 7, 2014 So will these refs get their pay docked or what? There were so many terrible calls. A few of the interference calls were baffling All those PIs were complete BS. Pisses me off - if it was just the Bills you could say I'm a homer but it isn't. How the F are DBs supposed to play defense?
Bleed Bills Blue Posted September 7, 2014 Posted September 7, 2014 KW said after the game he's never seen that happen in his entire career.
DanInUticaTampa Posted September 7, 2014 Posted September 7, 2014 Marrone said he was told the holding didn't "warrant" the penalty. bunch of nonesense. I had a bad feeling when they showed it being the refs 1st nfl game
Doc Posted September 7, 2014 Posted September 7, 2014 Wow, the excuse is almost as bad as picking up the flag. Glad the Bills were able to beat both the Bears AND refs.
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 7, 2014 Posted September 7, 2014 They had to pick it up when they saw that Marshall caught the ball for a 1st down. It was such a classic Bills' hose job. HOWEVER, I think it benefitted us. Marrone chewed those guys' ears off, and I truly believe that the refs were scared to throw the flag on those two near-PI calls on Graham at the end.
Kelly the Dog Posted September 7, 2014 Posted September 7, 2014 There are times when something looks like a blatant penalty but another official with a better view knows that wasn't true. And it's clear on the video replay why it could have seemed like a penalty but wasn't, so the over ruling is warranted. But that wasn't the case here whatsoever. It definitely was something. There was some kind of hold. It's arguable, I guess, that it may not always be a hold. BUT, the only way to OVERTURN that call is if another official with a better view knew it was not a hold at all. And that was NOT at all the case. I have never seen that kind of overturn either.
MattM Posted September 7, 2014 Posted September 7, 2014 That was beyond a head scratcher--Marrone should follow that up with the League this week to get an explanation.....
nucci Posted September 8, 2014 Posted September 8, 2014 Obviously they couldn't have the Bills beat the Bears opening day. I can't think of any other explanation. As someone said, baffling.
AJ1 Posted September 8, 2014 Posted September 8, 2014 There are times when something looks like a blatant penalty but another official with a better view knows that wasn't true. And it's clear on the video replay why it could have seemed like a penalty but wasn't, so the over ruling is warranted. But that wasn't the case here whatsoever. It definitely was something. There was some kind of hold. It's arguable, I guess, that it may not always be a hold. BUT, the only way to OVERTURN that call is if another official with a better view knew it was not a hold at all. And that was NOT at all the case. I have never seen that kind of overturn either. There are times when something looks like a blatant penalty but another official with a better view knows that wasn't true. And it's clear on the video replay why it could have seemed like a penalty but wasn't, so the over ruling is warranted. But that wasn't the case here whatsoever. It definitely was something. There was some kind of hold. It's arguable, I guess, that it may not always be a hold. BUT, the only way to OVERTURN that call is if another official with a better view knew it was not a hold at all. And that was NOT at all the case. I have never seen that kind of overturn either. This officiating crew just made the watch list. I'll record the names to see if one or more do not make the cut next year.
jo39416 Posted September 8, 2014 Posted September 8, 2014 Not sure the last time I saw the Bills beat the ref''s on the road, especially against a good team.
starrymessenger Posted September 8, 2014 Posted September 8, 2014 They had to pick it up when they saw that Marshall caught the ball for a 1st down. It was such a classic Bills' hose job. HOWEVER, I think it benefitted us. Marrone chewed those guys' ears off, and I truly believe that the refs were scared to throw the flag on those two near-PI calls on Graham at the end. Had the same thought re the refs being back on their heels after that (as they should be).
SmokinES3 Posted September 8, 2014 Posted September 8, 2014 (edited) Had the same thought re the refs being back on their heels after that (as they should be). Agreed, Saint Doug was livid! Seemed to have the desired effect. Edited September 8, 2014 by SmokinES3
BobbyC81 Posted September 8, 2014 Posted September 8, 2014 We watched from Lesters, the Bills Backers locale in St. Louis. So we couldn't hear what the call was. The flag hit Kyle in the face, and there was a hold. They picked up the flag. Why? That had a pretty big impact on that drive. However, the Bills won, and this is the best way for me to celebrate my 60th birthday. Happy Birthday TC!! That decision by the refs brought back memories of "just give it to 'em!"
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