yungmack Posted September 2, 2014 Posted September 2, 2014 What if EJ looks good...not great but good, like his accuracy percentage is up 8 or 10 points, along with his QB rating, and his TD to INT ratio is in the middle of the pack, but the team is heading for the 6-10 to 8-8 range? Pretty easy sitting a guy who's a total screwup and a lot harder if he's "showing signs of improvement." I'd much prefer he was clearly bad or clearly good than being just okay. But that's what I'm most afraid of, that he'll improve just enough to justify sticking with him another year.
Jauronimo Posted September 2, 2014 Posted September 2, 2014 I do wonder if Orton was signed only to pave the way for the return of Tim Tebow to the National Football League. Signing the only guy that Tebow ever won a QB job from CANNOT be a coincidence. This topic might even deserve its own thread.
Big Blitz Posted September 2, 2014 Posted September 2, 2014 What if EJ looks good...not great but good, like his accuracy percentage is up 8 or 10 points, along with his QB rating, and his TD to INT ratio is in the middle of the pack, but the team is heading for the 6-10 to 8-8 range? Pretty easy sitting a guy who's a total screwup and a lot harder if he's "showing signs of improvement." I'd much prefer he was clearly bad or clearly good than being just okay. But that's what I'm most afraid of, that he'll improve just enough to justify sticking with him another year. I swear we had a GM in town that ran his hockey team that way. B)
GG Posted September 2, 2014 Posted September 2, 2014 So lets demote the inexperienced actual EJ for the experienced EJ named Orton? Makes sense to me. It all depends on how bad he looks in the games. If there's improvement, you keep going, even if they're losing. If he's stalled, then they should pull him by midseason.
PolishDave Posted September 2, 2014 Posted September 2, 2014 People who are saying they want to automatically give him the whole season are fooling themselves. If the guy comes out playing really bad football consistently week after week, Marrone is not going to give EJ the whole season. That would be career suicide. He will probably lose his job anyway if that happens, but it would be like having a thug pull a gun on you, then you say "hey wait a minute" and pull out a big knife to stab yourself to death with before he shoots you. It would be stupid. If EJ shows promise and looks like he is improving after a few games, then I think he will get the whole year and probably should get the whole year. But if he sucks out of the gate and keeps sucking, then no friggin way.
Snorom Posted September 2, 2014 Posted September 2, 2014 I give EJ till the end of time. Hopefully that will weed out the whiners who never shut up
JC2002 Posted September 2, 2014 Posted September 2, 2014 How much time EJ gets is ultimately up to EJ because its his job to lose .He doesn't turn into a superstar overnight he just needs to show he is improving with the playing time hes being given and make more good plays than bad plays and the last thing he can afford is to make no plays .
Captain Hindsight Posted September 2, 2014 Posted September 2, 2014 Have we learned from the JP Losman/Kelly Holcomb debacle? Let him play the year. Unless he is putrid (which I sincerely doubt)
Tyrod's Tailor Posted September 2, 2014 Posted September 2, 2014 Have we learned from the JP Losman/Kelly Holcomb debacle? Let him play the year. Unless he is putrid (which I sincerely doubt) Have we learned from giving Losman and Edwards season after season well after they showed they couldn't hack it?
PromoTheRobot Posted September 2, 2014 Posted September 2, 2014 Why do football teams have 11 players when winning and losing depends on just one guy?
Rob's House Posted September 2, 2014 Posted September 2, 2014 I don't like the options. I'd give him the first 4 games almost unconditionally. After that, he'd have to play pretty decently. I'd allow for some growing pains, but I wouldn't throw away the season just to keep testing the EJ experiment.
YoloinOhio Posted September 2, 2014 Posted September 2, 2014 Why do football teams have 11 players when winning and losing depends on just one guy? the QB is everything! Which is why Matt Ryan, Big Ben, Eli manning, joe Flacco, jay cutler, RG3, tony romo and matt stafford all watched the playoffs from the comfort of their own homes last year.
PromoTheRobot Posted September 2, 2014 Posted September 2, 2014 (edited) the QB is everything! Which is why Matt Ryan, Big Ben, Eli manning, joe Flacco, jay cutler, RG3, tony romo and matt stafford all watched the playoffs from the comfort of their own homes last year. Don't blockers have to block? WRs catch the ball? RBs gain yards? While QB is vital this whole notion that QBs alone decide who wins and loses is nonsense. Teams win, not individual players. Putting all on the QB is just dumbing down the discussion. Edited September 2, 2014 by PromoTheRobot
Bangarang Posted September 2, 2014 Posted September 2, 2014 I voted for 8 games only because I think Marrone would try and save his job and likely pull him if he was playing poorly and costing us games.
John from Riverside Posted September 2, 2014 Posted September 2, 2014 If he doesnt run out of the tunnel with the right swagger.........thats the Orton que I kid....I kid.......
Dorkington Posted September 2, 2014 Posted September 2, 2014 I think he "should" get this season, and next season, personally. Unless we draft a QB with our 2nd round pick that is some sort of guarantee to be great or something...
Hardcore Bills Fan Posted September 2, 2014 Posted September 2, 2014 full season is the smart move btw its doesnt surprise me the Dope and Bullcrap have that poll up
26CornerBlitz Posted September 2, 2014 Posted September 2, 2014 full season is the smart move btw its doesnt surprise me the Dope and Bullcrap have that poll up The poll is actually from the Howard Simon Show.
voodoo poonani Posted September 2, 2014 Posted September 2, 2014 I think the pressure is on the coaches and FO to make the playoffs this year before new ownership takes over. If after the first four games the offense struggles to put up points, he'll be benched. The front half of the season is where we need to make hay to have a chance at playoffs.
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