John from Riverside Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 Been there since he was drafted.....not going anyone I have my favorite place picked out on EJ island.......the beachfront area is going to appreciate in value very soon.
YoloinOhio Posted August 31, 2014 Author Posted August 31, 2014 I'm not too sure what you actually mean by this. If you are meaning that you fully believe that he will develop into a Franchise QB, then I'm sorry Yolo, I hold that line of thought in similar disdain as I do those who fully believe that he will be a bust(likely more so as the odds are in the favour of the latter). If however you are saying that you believe EJ still has a chance to become a Franchise QB, and you are giving your emotional/mental support to him 100%......then I totally agree. I'm all-in with that! i mean that I have not decided that he can't lead this team to the playoffs this year as our QB, and that he has a chance to develop into our franchise QB. I believe he can do both of these things based on his regular season play as a rookie and the fact this is his second year in the league and in the same system. I believe he can be the QB the bills need him to be in order to win games.
Maury Ballstein Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 Where's my Hawaiian shirt and gold chain at ? Put me on the island. Ej3 !! Time to shut up all these crybaby preseason qb gurus.
Gray Beard Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 I'm rooting for the guy, but I have a nagging suspicion that he will end up as a well respected back-up QB within a few years.
Nanker Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 I believe he can succeed at a high level in this league. Take a look at all the SB winning QBs. Very few of them were rocket surgeons.
RuntheDamnBall Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 On either side of this question, IMO the smartest people will add "I could be wrong." Because the fact is, we just don't have enough information. I think this is a very important year for Manuel but the first thing that I hope he can do is just tune out the negative outsiders - of which there will be many - and just play ball. Coaches will be there to help him, and he should listen, but when he gets out on the field overthinking it will kill him. Just play ball.
YoloinOhio Posted August 31, 2014 Author Posted August 31, 2014 I believe he can succeed at a high level in this league. Take a look at all the SB winning QBs. Very few of them were rocket surgeons. rocket surgeons! OSU's OC threw this mixed metaphor out there last week about the new QB as well. Lmao.
Dibs Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 i mean that I have not decided that he can't lead this team to the playoffs this year as our QB, and that he has a chance to develop into our franchise QB. I believe he can do both of these things based on his regular season play as a rookie and the fact this is his second year in the league and in the same system. I believe he can be the QB the bills need him to be in order to win games. I figured that's what you meant, but I didn't want to assume. I'll be right there with you(metaphorically speaking), hoping and cheering, and enjoying the play and hopeful development of EJ this year. Go Bills!
BillsFan17 Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 I think once you saw what Buffalo paid Orton that you couldn't discount the front office and coaches giving Manuel a very short leash. I think the second Manuel starts to falter and cause his team games, Orton will be thrust into the lineup and will be hard to unseat unless the guy absolutely flops.
RuntheDamnBall Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 I think once you saw what Buffalo paid Orton that you couldn't discount the front office and coaches giving Manuel a very short leash. I think the second Manuel starts to falter and cause his team games, Orton will be thrust into the lineup and will be hard to unseat unless the guy absolutely flops. That was a Buffalo/coax me from "retirement" premium, not starter-money premium, IMO. If the coaches pull EJ for a guy who hasn't had their playbook for very long, they are writing their own obituaries.
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 I think once you saw what Buffalo paid Orton that you couldn't discount the front office and coaches giving Manuel a very short leash. I think the second Manuel starts to falter and cause his team games, Orton will be thrust into the lineup and will be hard to unseat unless the guy absolutely flops. I have to say, the whole thing is seeming rather like the Edwards-Fitz situation in 2010. Somebody in the Bills organization had a major conniption over the QB situation (and rightfully so) during the preseason. Only Lewis and Tuel were sent packing, but EJ isn't immune.
HOUSE Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 (edited) LOL, The term its only Preseason is overused It may be preseason but you still have to hit wide open wide receivers,read a defense, make faster decisions, Regular season games won't fix this....there is no magic switch Part of the problem is coaching, The Bills want to turn EJ into a pocket passer because the guy is injury prone. Its not his game.... If the Bills wanted a pocket passer then they should have drafted one.... Enjoy your umbrella Edited August 31, 2014 by HOUSE
Kemp Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 Hope you have a good boat for when you leave the island. I have always maintained the second season is when you definitively find out about your QB, so he could still shine. However, that is usually because that is when they mentally grasp it all. The problem with EJ does not appear to be mental. He just seems an inaccurate passer. Not sure that is correctable, but like everyone else, I will be pinned to the television for the opener, somehow believing it's possible. Geno, on the other hand, threw with far more accuracy, but made tons of mental errors. If he shines this year it will make it all so much worse. Sorry but you should take the word "ALL" out of of that sentence there are "fans" that would rather see him fail than watch the Bills win. I'd bet my house on it. No fan of a team sincerely roots for one of its players to fail. Lucky for you that you can't bet your house.
RuntheDamnBall Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 The problem is his slow eyes, they don't catch up to the rest of his body until his third season, can you imagine playing two seasons without eyes? But once they catch up it on. I see what you did there, and I am amused (not hazed, presently). Doubt that. I am an EJ doubter who has been labeled a hater. I don't hate him at all. I just don't think he has what it takes to be good. I love the Bills and hope to god I am wrong about him. I root like hell for him but I don't let my fandom influence my evaluation of his abilities. Most people who take the time to post on a board like this love the Bills root for him the same way. And then there are those openly rooting for the dude to get injuries, which conjures up my worst memories of Bills fans.
Best Player Available Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 Been there since he was drafted.....not going anyone I have my favorite place picked out on EJ island.......the beachfront area is going to appreciate in value very soon. Seriously, I actually thought judging by your posts that you owned EJ island? For now I have my boat moored just off the island right in front of the Tiki bar. For obvious reasons. I may buy a lot there after game 4. But don't call me a bandwagon fan. It took a lot of gas to get the to the island.
RuntheDamnBall Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 I have this theory, and I have tested it before, and it's proven to be true. The theory is, that all people that think or say that "EJ has slow eyes" actually are the ones with the slow eyes. So of course it looks that way to you. Everyone else, with normal to quick eyes, see him and see that he has normal eye speed. Are you Philip K. Dick, perchance? LOL, The term its only Preseason is overused "Its only preseason" is a phrase, dude, about a single preseason that belonged to something. Whew whew whew whew whew (that's a grammar police sound effect, because I don't take myself that seriously).
Harveyj001 Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 I think the jury's still out, not every rookie is Andrew Luck. I am more than willing to see where he is at the end of this year, then if he stays healthy see where he is and we will all be better able to make a real determination.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 For all the EJ haters out there, watch and learn. Can't throw deep, inaccurate, slow eyes... This video refutes all of it. What you have is an over coached rookie who needs to just play ball. Notice his first two games were some of his best?
dollars 2 donuts Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 I'm there.. I'm kind of there, as well.
Seasons1992 Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 I believe he can succeed at a high level in this league. Take a look at all the SB winning QBs. Very few of them were rocket surgeons. Kind of like when you "abort ship."
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