PO'14 Posted August 30, 2014 Posted August 30, 2014 He's a role player because they don't know how to use him. For some reason I always thought a RUNNING BACK was handed the ball by the QB and ran!
Green Lightning Posted August 30, 2014 Posted August 30, 2014 Let me call Marshall Faulk and see if he got any yards catching the ball. Maybe Thurman will weigh in on sending a 200 pounder in the middle of the line ad infinitum.
Bills Fan of St Augustine Posted August 30, 2014 Posted August 30, 2014 (edited) He's a role player because they don't know how to use him. No he's a role player because he plays behind a line with little talent that can't run block when playing against elite competition. No hole and Spiller dances rather than hitting it hard and settling for 2-3. RBs are a dime a dozen and the only true measure is whether there is speed to break it once they get to the second level. Spiller has it. So does Bryce. Let's see what happens, but unless Spiller becomes the second coming of A. Peterson, we have to let him go. Running behing a competent OL and he is AP every year. Edited August 30, 2014 by Bills Fan of Maryland
Green Lightning Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 No he's a role player because he plays behind a line with little talent that can't run block when playing against elite competition. No hole and Spiller dances rather than hitting it hard and settling for 2-3. RBs are a dime a dozen and the only true measure is whether there is speed to break it once they get to the second level. Spiller has it. So does Bryce. Let's see what happens, but unless Spiller becomes the second coming of A. Peterson, we have to let him go. Running behing a competent OL and he is AP every year. He did fine, thank you, behind an even crappier line under Chan. They don't know how to use him. He's better off someplace that does.
SmokinES3 Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 He's a role player I'd love them to keep.... At a role player price of course. Yes he's an elite athlete, but he's a 12 touch per game player which will mean he should expect to discount his services. By the way on rb's was anyone else impressed that Fredie and CJ helped Bryce brown off the field when his leg got hammered? Good teammates man.... Probably not the type of player they'd tag. Yeah those guys are tight knit. I saw Rodriguez tweeted about how he'll miss it when announcing his release.
eball Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 729 touches from scrimmage in 4 seasons, producing 17 TD's and 4,091 yards. I suspect they'll let him walk given that he'll be 28 when the 2015 season begins, hasn't produced, and is frequently nicked up. This is an odd post. What do you *want* them to do??
Deranged Rhino Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 (edited) The Bills seem content to roll the dice and I tend to agree. Unless CJ would be willing to accept a deal worth 7 million (a 2 million bump, putting him in the Lynch/Stewart/Forte range of highest paid backs -- CJ's currently 9th) I don't see the Bills signing him to an extension. And frankly, if I were CJ, I wouldn't take that deal if offered. He's not going to get AP type numbers (14 a year) even if he puts up 2k yards this season. 10 is probably the ceiling in terms of average yearly salary for a RB in today's league, but he will command closer to 9 on the open market. Would he be willing to leave 2 million or so on the table to stay in Buffalo? Would you? Making this a contract year should inspire CJ to a monster year statistically, which will help the Bills overall. If CJ has a so-so year or gets nicked up again, the Bills might have a better chance at getting him to stick around on the cheap. Either outcome works for me if I'm Whaley, especially with Brown and Boobie on the roster. Edited August 31, 2014 by GreggyT
26CornerBlitz Posted September 9, 2014 Author Posted September 9, 2014 @WGR550 Doug Whaley said the Bills are interested in keeping CJ Spiller long term
YoloinOhio Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 @buffalobills: Whaley on @CJSPILLER: "He's a playmaker, and we're trying to keep as many playmakers as possible"
26CornerBlitz Posted September 9, 2014 Author Posted September 9, 2014 @buffalobills #Bills GM Doug Whaley has had a sit-down meeting with reps for RB @CJSPILLER. Interested in keeping him in Buffalo long-term. Whaley on @CJSPILLER: "He's a playmaker, and we're trying to keep as many playmakers as possible"
K D Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 I don't understand how they can say he is such a valuable player to keep after what I saw on Sunday. If they are going to run their RB's up the middle on that shotgun draw play 30 times a game then they have better guys that can do that (Fred, Boobie, Brown). Unless they are actually going to USE SPILLER'S TALENTS then what's the point of keeping him? Try and get a 2nd round pick or better for him. Or if they really do want to keep him then I would expect him to be a much bigger part of the offense going forward. I want a specific CJ package where they utilize his athleticism. He's not the kind of RB that is going to bust through the line straight up the gut. It's so friggin obvious, I wish they would get a clue
Canadian Bills Fan Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 Per Twitter: Bills open contract talks with CJ Spiller CBF
YoloinOhio Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 Pegs will open his wallet and say - Hi CJ. How much you need?
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 (edited) It really depends on how he sees his value. If he wants top RB money, he's gotta go elsewhere. Someone might pay top tier RB money to him, and I think that's a mistake as he really is a 10-15 touch guy. If he is realistic about his role as a contributor to a RB committee, then he just might stay. It also may depend on if pegs wants to keep it at part of his shiny new toy Add: CJ is already in top 10 RB salary for 2014 http://www.spotrac.com/rankings/nfl/running-back/ AP is like 12 mil Then it drops off precipitously... Lynch is third at 6 mil. Also noteworthy fjax is near the top too at 2.5mil this year. Edited September 9, 2014 by over 20 years of fanhood
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 IN I just posted a link in the other CJ thread CJ contract talks opened?
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 IN I just posted a link in the other CJ thread CJ contract talks opened? This thread has more seniority
GaryPinC Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 I don't understand how they can say he is such a valuable player to keep after what I saw on Sunday. If they are going to run their RB's up the middle on that shotgun draw play 30 times a game then they have better guys that can do that (Fred, Boobie, Brown). Unless they are actually going to USE SPILLER'S TALENTS then what's the point of keeping him? Try and get a 2nd round pick or better for him. Or if they really do want to keep him then I would expect him to be a much bigger part of the offense going forward. I want a specific CJ package where they utilize his athleticism. He's not the kind of RB that is going to bust through the line straight up the gut. It's so friggin obvious, I wish they would get a clue Totally agree. Possibly the focus of the next Whaley/Marrone argument?
Dorkington Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 Hopefully CJ recognizes that having a RB by committee is good for his health long term.
crucialsean Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 It's obvious the team will need to keep him. The guy has talent for days. We only just now got the RB depth in a GREAT shape. he may not like it as he isn't getting every touch, but it's why we had one of the top run games last year and are poised to do it all over again this year. And I hate to say it (because every year it makes this point irrelevent but I say it just in case) but Fred is getting up there in age. Plan B, C, and D being place is fine with me.
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