G-Daddy Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 Perhaps gay can't hold for field goals and pats.
PolishDave Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 On 8/29/2014 at 4:28 PM, Delusional Bills Optimist said: After a disastrous couple of punts in the first half last night, both he and Gay were punting prior to the start of the 3rd quarter. Gay's punts landed easily ten yards further, with substantially more hang time than Moorman's, and Gay looked like he was casually chipping before a round of 18, while Moorman appeared to be putting every ounce of leg strength into each kick. The last time the Bills tried to make a snap decision on a punter they cut Moorman from the team. Then part way into the season they realize they had effed up bigtime. And they had to get Moorman back. Luckily they did. Do you want them to repeat that mistake again? I sure don't. You replace a guy when you are reasonably certain you have a better one. They made that same mistake at other positions. Usually you can't get a player back.
MarkAF43 Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 On 8/29/2014 at 4:34 PM, PolishDave said: The last time the Bills tried to make a snap decision on a punter they cut Moorman from the team. Then part way into the season they realize they had effed up bigtime. And they had to get Moorman back. Luckily they did. Do you want them to repeat that mistake again? I sure don't. You replace a guy when you are reasonably certain you have a better one. They made that same mistake at other positions. Usually you can't get a player back. Repeat the mistake? Have you seen how awful Moorman has been?
Kirby Jackson Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 Moorman to me at this point reminds me a little of Chris Watson. Everyone else had a punt returner and the Bills had a punt catcher. It is so odd (and dumb). "We don't want a guy that can regularly hit 45 yard punts because we have a guy that used to be able to already on our roster."
Delusional Bills Optimist Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 If the Bills haven't been repping another holder since OTAs, then that speaks volumes about the veracity of their commitment to trying to upgrade the punting situation. If we're forced into holding onto a mid-30 yard net punter just because he holds on PATs and FGs, this front office is blowing a lot of smoke about their so-called competitions. At least they auditioned Lee Smith as an alternative snapper.
Bangarang Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 Down 2 so far: Evan Rodriguez and Dominique Jones.
PolishDave Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 On 8/29/2014 at 4:36 PM, MarkAF43 said: Repeat the mistake? Have you seen how awful Moorman has been? Yes I have. I know he has not played well. But it is like every other starting position on the team in some respects. You have to find someone better to replace him with. Like I said, they tried to just cut him and replace him last year. It failed miserably. The guy they signed to replace him ended up being even worse. Then they were screwed. That could easily happen again. Once they have someone better that they have confidence in, then they will move on from Moorman. They already showed they are ready to move on from him. They just have not found a better player. Seems pretty simple to me.
Kirby Jackson Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 On 8/29/2014 at 4:49 PM, PolishDave said: Yes I have. I know he has not played well. But it is like every other starting position on the team in some respects. You have to find someone better to replace him with. Like I said, they tried to just cut him and replace him last year. It failed miserably. The guy they signed to replace him ended up being even worse. Then they were screwed. That could easily happen again. Once they have someone better that they have confidence in, then they will move on from Moorman. They already showed they are ready to move on from him. They just have not found a better player. Seems pretty simple to me. To that end though, how hard did they try? I believe that the Ray Guy award winner went undrafted. They couldn't have offered him a solid undrafted rookie contract to come in an compete?
MarkAF43 Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 On 8/29/2014 at 4:49 PM, PolishDave said: Yes I have. I know he has not played well. But it is like every other starting position on the team in some respects. You have to find someone better to replace him with. Like I said, they tried to just cut him and replace him last year. It failed miserably. The guy they signed to replace him ended up being even worse. Then they were screwed. That could easily happen again. Once they have someone better that they have confidence in, then they will move on from Moorman. They already showed they are ready to move on from him. They just have not found a better player. Seems pretty simple to me. How did they show this recently? How many times did Dombrowski punt in the preseason before they cut him? Was it like the "competition" between Hopkins and Carpenter (not saying Carpenter shouldn't have won, cause he deserved it), but calling it a competition in the beginning was a joke.
thebandit27 Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 On 8/29/2014 at 4:52 PM, Kirby Jackson said: To that end though, how hard did they try? I believe that the Ray Guy award winner went undrafted. They couldn't have offered him a solid undrafted rookie contract to come in an compete? I'd sign Tom Hornsey pronto
26CornerBlitz Posted August 29, 2014 Author Posted August 29, 2014 Bills 53-man roster projection: 8/29: http://www.wgr550.co....php?pid=424303 Quote The preseason has been completed, and the only thing separating the NFL from the start of the regular season is to make final decisions on their 53-man rosters. In Buffalo, there are some tough decisions to be made specifically on the offensive side of the ball, but who will survive? Keep in mind that it's likely the 53-man roster won't be made up completely of players that Buffalo currently has the rights to. Before the cuts come down, here is a projection of who the Bills might keep:
5 Wide Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 On 8/29/2014 at 4:16 PM, PlayoffsPlease said: I disagree, worst day is when the Bills are eliminated from playoff contention. Those days really aren't very far apart
Delusional Bills Optimist Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 On 8/29/2014 at 4:57 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: Bills 53-man roster projection: 8/29: http://www.wgr550.co....php?pid=424303 The thought of keeping Urbik and Pears as guards and/or emergency centers is frightening. I hope Whaley can find someone on the cut pile that can serve as a better reserve guard/center than these two. Judging by how mightily Urbik struggled against the Lions' 3rd string DTs last night, it shouldn't be that hard.
Lombardi1 Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 Sure hope Whaley & Marrone know what they're doing here. It's best to think with the total team concept in mind, and make decisions in the best interest of the team. May want to get this punting situation under control before the games start to count/matter, and same goes for acquiring a seasoned quarterback with some life still left in his arm and legs, or this season may be on the brink sooner rather than later.
Best Player Available Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 On 8/29/2014 at 4:36 PM, MarkAF43 said: Repeat the mistake? Have you seen how awful Moorman has been? Moorman is just kicking vanilla punts and saving the real ones when the bullets fly.Just like EJ and the O. It's all part of the master plan.
1B4IDie Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 On 8/29/2014 at 4:16 PM, PlayoffsPlease said: I disagree, worst day is when the Bills are eliminated from playoff contention. That was yesterday.
Kirby Jackson Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 On 8/29/2014 at 5:11 PM, Best Player Available said: Moorman is just kicking vanilla punts and saving the real ones when the bullets fly. Just like EJ and the O. It's all part of the master plan. Ha ha, this made me laugh. I am naming my next fantasy team "vanilla punts."
1B4IDie Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 On 8/29/2014 at 5:11 PM, Best Player Available said: Moorman is just kicking vanilla punts and saving the real ones when the bullets fly. Just like EJ and the O. It's all part of the master plan.
26CornerBlitz Posted August 29, 2014 Author Posted August 29, 2014 On 8/29/2014 at 5:07 PM, Delusional Bills Optimist said: The thought of keeping Urbik and Pears as guards and/or emergency centers is frightening. I hope Whaley can find someone on the cut pile that can serve as a better reserve guard/center than these two. Judging by how mightily Urbik struggled against the Lions' 3rd string DTs last night, it shouldn't be that hard. Cyrus Kouandjio as the 3rd tackle? IMO, They keep Hairston for a total of 4 OTs. On 8/29/2014 at 5:11 PM, Best Player Available said: Moorman is just kicking vanilla punts and saving the real ones when the bullets fly. Just like EJ and the O. It's all part of the master plan. Good stuff!
KOKBILLS Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 On 8/29/2014 at 2:21 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: It's pretty important when you take field position into account. Moorman's propensity to get off poor punts is going to cost the Bills if they decide to keep him. It's time to move on from him. Exactly...It amazes me that the Bills were not more proactive in finding a replacement for Moorman...Especially considering it's a punter we're talking about...It's not like it's that hard to find a decent one...On some teams it may not matter much...On this one it will...Big time...
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