Mr. T Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 There has been a lot of negative attention given (and rightfully so) to the play of the backup QBs while the REAL problem with the poor performance on Offense (EJ) continues to be coddled. Believe me, I want EJ to succeed so badly, because everything with this team rests with him. But he needs a serious fire lit under his ass. I see a kid who thinks the job is his no matter what. No pressure to improve his play, no accountability. It seems as though everyone is afraid to hurt his feelings, or his ego. If he is this sensitive the Bills really blew it when they chose him as the franchise QB. He plays poorly (the norm) and stands up in post game press conferences and says he thinks he played well, "Just a few drops". What?!! Let's be honest, if EJ was playing half way decent, we all could care less about the backups. But everyone is worried with the backups because it just reminds us all (including Marone) that we have no alternative to EJ if he continues to stink up the place with his indecision and off the mark passes.
HOUSE Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 The problem is lack of real competition. He has the job no matter what
8-8 Forever? Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 we shall see. real games start very soon. then we will know what we have. preseason = garbage. If not for the huge $$ involved, we would be down to 2 games by now in the new CBA. unfortunately, doesn't look like EJ is the real deal.. this could get ugly
Kemp Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 The scariest part is that the Bills 1st stringers don't seem to be better than other team's 2nd stringers.
billsgpr88 Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 The problem is lack of real competition. He has the job no matter what there is no competition because they wouldn't even consider it in the offseason, another form of coddling EJ. Totally agree with OP, just watched the short post game presser where at one point, he says "talking to coach hackett, coach downing, they told me I did a good job so I was happy with that". That sounds like a helpless child in need of approval to me. I've been very patient with Manuel, but he is not NFL talent, over his head, and clearly delusional. And Hackett is terrible. People throw up offensive stats to stand by these guys, but if you get away from the stats and just watch the game, it couldn't be any clearer that they simply aren't good enough.
4merper4mer Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 The scariest part is that the Bills 1st stringers don't seem to be better than other team's 2nd stringers. The defense seems good again. Nobody on offense can seem to grasp the genius of Marrone and Hackett's "system". Don't know what we have in EJ but Jackson, Spiller, Watkins and Woods all look terrible along with the entire OL. Peyton Manning would look like Trent Edwards if he played for this doofus.
BarleyNY Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 there is no competition because they wouldn't even consider it in the offseason, another form of coddling EJ. I agree. Not bringing in competition was willful negligence. As was burning the best chance to replace him in next year's draft by trading away our first round pick. That is one hell of a gamble.
Kellyto83TD Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 I hope we can find a new owner worth a damn that puts winning first. **** can everyone from Brandon on down to the !@#$ing waterboy. **** can most of the current players as well. This whole thing has needed to be completely gutted for a long time now.
Buffaloed in Pa Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 We just need a QB and Hackett gone. Pick another Qb or pick the BEST one left after cuts.Just one position killing the team. Next week will tell all.
Tyrod's Tailor Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 just a terrible job by Whaley to neglect the QB position. Three years in a row now that we're searching for our backup QB just before the season starts.
Saint Doug Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 The trading away of next year's 1st is going to go down as one of the biggest blunders in Bills history and is likely going to cost Whaley his job. I don't see us getting more than 4 wins this year.
MDH Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 What I gather from reading this board is this: fans want the players and coaches to mirror their emotions and thoughts publicly. If they don't there is hell to pay!
Best Player Available Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 What else can he do? say I Effed up? he probably said that in private but Russ has inventory to move yet. In this his last season with the team.
RuntheDamnBall Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 Fans get to have it all the ways they want when they're in "complain" mode. Get mad about coddling now, but then also get mad about leaving guys in there, susceptible to injury, when the front office hasn't provided them a viable plan B. Complaining rules! If he hasn't unleashed the whole offense, the whole catalog of what his starter will be doing, then how can we really evaluate that from the outside? If the starter is really working on his mechanics and timing and that's the focus - not a scripted drive or a game-plan - then what are we supposed to think we're seeing here? I'll bite that EJ still seems to be working a lot of that out. I'll actually get worried if and when they all suck in actual games.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 Something more than EJ is wrong here. The kid looks worse than last year, the o line is a disaster, the WRs are running the wrong routes... Maybe the pressure to win is causing these kitties to crumble when they are on the field...? EJ was very good in some games, very bad in others. I still have hope he just needs to get through a few complete games and build confidence with success. Also Williams didn't play much WR, but he is the #1 on the team untill we see different. Teams are going to put 8 in the box and choke off the run so EJ better figure it out.... 9 days to learn the real story
RuntheDamnBall Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 Something more than EJ is wrong here. The kid looks worse than last year, the o line is a disaster, the WRs are running the wrong routes... Maybe the pressure to win is causing these kitties to crumble when they are on the field...? Maybe it's preseason and they aren't playing them like they are real games?
KD in CA Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 But he needs a serious fire lit under his ass. I see a kid who thinks the job is his no matter what. No pressure to improve his play, no accountability. It seems as though everyone is afraid to hurt his feelings, or his ego. If he is this sensitive the Bills really blew it when they chose him as the franchise QB. Any parent of a sensitive kid can tell you, 'lighting a fire under their ass' will usually cause them to wilt, not flourish. The backup conversation is just noise. There is no other potential NFL starting QB on the team besides EJ.
8-8 Forever? Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 (edited) In public, does he have a choice? ripping your only starter in the media is not the way to go. EJ is all they have and all they will have. they need to run run run the ball, screen (traditional, bubble and quick) pass it, and play defense this year. all they can do and play s teams. and I believe that is what they will do. same way steelers did it with Ben. win ugly. and defenses will plan to force them to pass downfield ... should be interesting Edited August 29, 2014 by 8and8Forever
RuntheDamnBall Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 Any parent of a sensitive kid can tell you, 'lighting a fire under their ass' will usually cause them to wilt, not flourish. Or he could just pop in Troy McClure's motivational video, "Get Confident, Stupid!"
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