Gugny Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 the average consumer wouldn't know the driver doesn't get any of that money, i would assume a delivery charge goes to the driver and may forego a tip in that case... I understand it as the delivery charge helps the pizza place to pay the driver his minimum wage. I used to be a standard $1 pizza delivery tipper. Then, for a while, $2. Now, I round it to make the tip between $4 and $5 and make the total even (I use my card 9/10 times). So if the bill comes to $23.72, I tip $4.28.
SmokinES3 Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 (edited) I understand it as the delivery charge helps the pizza place to pay the driver his minimum wage. I used to be a standard $1 pizza delivery tipper. Then, for a while, $2. Now, I round it to make the tip between $4 and $5 and make the total even (I use my card 9/10 times). So if the bill comes to $23.72, I tip $4.28. Unless it's a huge order and I had 4 bags full of pizzas, 4-5$ was a very good tip in my book. Edited August 29, 2014 by SmokinES3
Gugny Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 Unless it's a huge order and I had 4 bags full of pizzas, 4-5$ was a very good tip in my book. Took me a while to realize it, but they deserve it. And I've noticed that delivery people seem to be a lot more personable these days. I like that.
ChevyVanMiller Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 I'm generally in the camp of, "always tip and overtip when you're a regular." The one exception is places that take an entitled stance to tipping. for instance, there is an iconic sub shop in NF (Falls residents will know the one I'm talking about) where they have a tip jar with a sign that says, "Tipping is not a city in China." I never tip them a penny.
Gugny Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 I'm generally in the camp of, "always tip and overtip when you're a regular." The one exception is places that take an entitled stance to tipping. for instance, there is an iconic sub shop in NF (Falls residents will know the one I'm talking about) where they have a tip jar with a sign that says, "Tipping is not a city in China." I never tip them a penny. There's a bar n NF (Canadian side) called the Wild Mushroom that has a Tipping/China wooden sign hanging on the wall.
John from Riverside Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 I understand it as the delivery charge helps the pizza place to pay the driver his minimum wage. I used to be a standard $1 pizza delivery tipper. Then, for a while, $2. Now, I round it to make the tip between $4 and $5 and make the total even (I use my card 9/10 times). So if the bill comes to $23.72, I tip $4.28. You a good man gug.....you would get your pizza first if I was in your area.
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 the average consumer wouldn't know the driver doesn't get any of that money, i would assume a delivery charge goes to the driver and may forego a tip in that case... Agreed. I always assumed that the delivery charge basically went right to the driver.
Just Jack Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 I've noticed in small print on pizza menus that the delivery charge does not go to the driver. With that said, I usually give the driver $5, and it shows when ordering from my regular location. I'm told it could take 45 minutes for my order, but it normally arrives about 20-25 minutes (they are just under a mile from where I live)
Gugny Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 I've noticed in small print on pizza menus that the delivery charge does not go to the driver. With that said, I usually give the driver $5, and it shows when ordering from my regular location. I'm told it could take 45 minutes for my order, but it normally arrives about 20-25 minutes (they are just under a mile from where I live) So you're getting the stuff that's been under the heat lamp for a few hours.
Deranged Rhino Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 It's not tipping I believe in, it's over tipping. --Vinnie Antonelli
NoSaint Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 I am kind of irritated now that I know some places don't give the delivery charge to the driver, and we are supposed to read fine print to know that. So, basically the delivery charge is just a premium. Doesn't really matter to me, since I carry out and don't do delivery, but still-- seems a little dishonest. It's called a charge, not a tip and normally comes with a not hard to see disclaimer. That said, I'm sure it rolls into his compensation package for the most part (hourly pay, mileage etc....)
Just Jack Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 So you're getting the stuff that's been under the heat lamp for a few hours. I doubt it since I'm not getting a standard type pizza usually.
The Dean Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 Having been raised in a culture that doesn't tip, I find tipping quite alien. I don't understand why prices are not simply put up, the staff paid a reasonable wage, and fired if they do not perform well? No tips required.....system works without having extraneous social pressures adding to a basic commerce situation. Just curious, Dibs, what culture are you from? I agree this is a fairly crappy way to do business, but that's the way it is in this country. I tend to overtip as I worked as a bartender for years and I know that, and waiting tables, can be a thankless job. Plus you are typically paid well below minimum wage. Sometimes I even minimally tip crappy service, but if it is bad enough I won't. I tip in takeout places and basically anywhere where they accept tips. I tip the AAA guy who comes to jump my battery. Why not? It shows appreciation. A human kindness extended. But as others have noted, I will NOT be bullied into tipping.
The Poojer Posted August 29, 2014 Author Posted August 29, 2014 He's in Australia, I believe. US is one of the few societies that, or so I've heard Just curious, Dibs, what culture are you from? I agree this is a fairly crappy way to do business, but that's the way it is in this country. I tend to overtip as I worked as a bartender for years and I know that, and waiting tables, can be a thankless job. Plus you are typically paid well below minimum wage. Sometimes I even minimally tip crappy service, but if it is bad enough I won't. I tip in takeout places and basically anywhere where they accept tips. I tip the AAA guy who comes to jump my battery. Why not? It shows appreciation. A human kindness extended. But as others have noted, I will NOT be bullied into tipping.
The Dean Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 He's in Australia, I believe. US is one of the few societies that, or so I've heard Ah, I didn't realize Dibs was from down under. Yes, I believe they actually pay their servers a living wage. Too bad we can't do that, Canadians tip, though generally very poorly.
DC Tom Posted August 30, 2014 Posted August 30, 2014 I understand it as the delivery charge helps the pizza place to pay the driver his minimum wage. I used to be a standard $1 pizza delivery tipper. Then, for a while, $2. Now, I round it to make the tip between $4 and $5 and make the total even (I use my card 9/10 times). So if the bill comes to $23.72, I tip $4.28. That's...pretty generous, actually. When I delivered (decades ago), $2.28 would have been good. Four and change would have bought you great service next time. My rule for tipping is to tip for personal service. I don't tip the barista just for working the register, for example. And while I don't not tip for bad service, I will tip a pittance to send the message. And I HATE buffet-style restaurants (e.g. Indian, or Thai) that expect you to tip. I got my own food. I even poured my own water. What the hell am I tipping you for, bringing me the check? %tip.
Gugny Posted August 30, 2014 Posted August 30, 2014 That's...pretty generous, actually. When I delivered (decades ago), $2.28 would have been good. Four and change would have bought you great service next time. My rule for tipping is to tip for personal service. I don't tip the barista just for working the register, for example. And while I don't not tip for bad service, I will tip a pittance to send the message. And I HATE buffet-style restaurants (e.g. Indian, or Thai) that expect you to tip. I got my own food. I even poured my own water. What the hell am I tipping you for, bringing me the check? %tip. Agreed re: buffets. %tip, indeed.
The Dean Posted August 30, 2014 Posted August 30, 2014 Agreed re: buffets. %tip, indeed. \ Agreed for the most part. No real service and employees aren't paid with tips expected to make up a portion of their salary (or shouldn't be). But on the very rare occasion I go to a buffet restaurant I always order a couple of beers (the wine in those places is typically undrinkable). That involves some service so I do leave a tip for the service I've received.
BuffaloBill Posted August 30, 2014 Posted August 30, 2014 If theres a tip jar, a buck or two. I hate the tip jar because now you see them nearly everywhere there is a cash register and a counter. The best recently was at a gas station convenience store. I guess I am supposed to tip you for allowing me to pay you with my debit card where your "service" is hitting a touch screen two times to prompt the transaction to go through. Yeah, that is tip worthy service. Having said this, I do generally tip restaurant wait staff well. I get it that much of their pay comes through tips.
Dibs Posted August 30, 2014 Posted August 30, 2014 Ah, I didn't realize Dibs was from down under. Yes, I believe they actually pay their servers a living wage. Too bad we can't do that, Canadians tip, though generally very poorly. The Poojer is correct. Raised and live in Australia......and yes, our minimum wage is of a level that one can live off it. Proper restaurants are actually the only place in Aus where tipping can occur.....though everyone is always very confused on whether to do so or not. My philosophy here is that I will not tip. Servers earn as much(or more) than retail employees, cleaners, supermarket workers etc, etc. Having spent time in the retail industry in the past.....where I always went above and beyond to give my customers good service(for no tips), the thought of giving a food server 10% (15%?) of my expensive food bill when they were doing a decent(expected) job.....while they were earning more money/hour than I was in my retail job.....I was really turned off the whole tipping concept. If/when I go to the US I will take a different stance though. Not being paid enough to live off in their wage puts a totally different spin on things. It will feel very odd for me.....like giving charity or paying beggars....but I see it as a necessity for you guys. This has been happening across the U.S. One new restaurant in my town does not allow tipping. I find that very interesting. I will be passing that bit of info on to my fellow Aussie friends the next time I am out at a restaurant.
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