nucci Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 Maybe they're just pissed off that the team hasn't played better.
Big Blitz Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 Maybe Marrone wanted the blue gatorade not the red.
BigBuff423 Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 FWIW, here is a link to a story ESPN did just prior to the Draft speaking with Buddy Nix about his thoughts on the QBs in that draft class: http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2013/story/_/id/9211442/2013-nfl-draft-buffalo-bills-gm-buddy-nix-hopes-land-franchise-quarterback Another link on NFL Network about trading "up" to get a QB....he seemed pretty intent to me: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000111083/article/buddy-nix-buffalo-bills-should-trade-up-for-qb-in-draft And here's another where Buddy owns the EJ pick along with refusing any idea or notion of when he would step down: http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-2/Buddy-Nix-Doug-Marrone-comment-on-Bills-2013-Draft/1cdcc444-216a-4d1a-8d4e-d459ff58c670 And another, this will be the last one for now, where Buddy talks about how he picked EJ and what they liked and didn't: http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-2/Buddy-Nix-and-Doug-Marrone-comment-on-drafting-EJ-Manuel/f1c81a79-1804-4e0e-99dc-48a109e7ff6f
Dorkington Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 (edited) Considering all three know this may be their last season* unless they produce a successful team, it wouldn't be surprising to see frustrations come to the surface. (* please note, I'm not saying it will be their last season, or even that it should be... but with a new owner coming in, and our 14 year drought, they gotta be nervous) Edited August 26, 2014 by Dorkington
BigBuff423 Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 And there are those who will say, "Well, what do you expect him to say?" but then that's assuming information rather than allowing what is plainly stated speak for itself: EJ was Buddy's pick and to what extent DW had a say in that decision none of us may ever know, and if we do it will be much after the fact...so again, I submit EJ was Buddy's pick and DW was essentially forced to make it work and now there is some panic involved and DW is starting to hit the re-set button, at least possibly having his finger quivering over that re-set button....
Tyrod's Tailor Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 And there are those who will say, "Well, what do you expect him to say?" but then that's assuming information rather than allowing what is plainly stated speak for itself: EJ was Buddy's pick and to what extent DW had a say in that decision none of us may ever know, and if we do it will be much after the fact...so again, I submit EJ was Buddy's pick and DW was essentially forced to make it work and now there is some panic involved and DW is starting to hit the re-set button, at least possibly having his finger quivering over that re-set button.... even under that scenario, then what the hell was Whaley doing about QB THIS offseason, when he was the GM? The answer is nothing.
Fan in Chicago Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 I'm wondering why these two are very upset at each other? Wasnt there also a reported flare up between the two during half time of the Bucs game ?
GG Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 And there are those who will say, "Well, what do you expect him to say?" but then that's assuming information rather than allowing what is plainly stated speak for itself: EJ was Buddy's pick and to what extent DW had a say in that decision none of us may ever know, and if we do it will be much after the fact...so again, I submit EJ was Buddy's pick and DW was essentially forced to make it work and now there is some panic involved and DW is starting to hit the re-set button, at least possibly having his finger quivering over that re-set button.... This has been debated add nausea since last year, and the conclusion was fairly conclusive that while Nix made the nominal pick, Whaley was the ultimate decider.
The Big Cat Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 it takes a lot of mental gymnastics to assume that everything is fine with this team. And as evident by the OP: virtually no mental acuity to assume otherwise.
eball Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 Good lord you people are irritating, with all of the speculation and guessing games. Clearly, Marrone is complaining that Whaley took them to Chef's for dinner on Monday night while he wanted to eat at Tempo.
BigBuff423 Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 even under that scenario, then what the hell was Whaley doing about QB THIS offseason, when he was the GM? The answer is nothing. Hey, I'm not arguing about the fact that Aaron Murray went in the 4th or 5th round and the BILLS remained silent or Mettenberger or others, I'm just saying regarding some of the reported tension between DW and Marrone with Brandon in the mix, that I think some of it has to do with DW believing he was saddled with EJ and thought the best course of action was to basically *force* EJ into a state of psychological calm in hopes of boosting his confidence and letting him play....will it work? I have no idea...but my doubts are growing...
GG Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 And as evident by the OP: virtually no mental acuity to assume otherwise. What would your takeway be from Rodak's report that Marrone was tossing loud, choice words at Whaley & Brandon on a practice sideline that's attended by reporters?
BigBuff423 Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 This has been debated add nausea since last year, and the conclusion was fairly conclusive that while Nix made the nominal pick, Whaley was the ultimate decider. Fair enough...but "fairly conclusive" by whom? Did Nix say that? Did DW? Did Russ Brandon? And maybe they did and I just missed it...but unless one of those 3 come out and say exactly that, or there is a tell-all biography done some time in the future that refutes these statements by Nix, we can only go by what we *DO* know and not what we can speculate, at least that's how I feel...I can read what is written and postulate an idea or hypothesis but facts remain...
The Big Cat Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 What would your takeway be from Rodak's report that Marrone was tossing loud, choice words at Whaley & Brandon on a practice sideline that's attended by reporters? That it wasn't that important. Because if it was: THEY WOULDN'T BE HAVING THE !@#$ING CONVERSATION ON THE PRACTICE FIELD IN FRONT OF PLAYERS AND PRESS! Rodak has more than adequately shown himself to have proclivities for mountainizing anything which even resembles a negative-leaning molehill.
SF Bills Fan Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 I know what it was...Marrone likes Duffs wings and Whaley is partial to the Anchor Bar.
eball Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 I give BigBuff423 props for subscribing to the notion that if you keep repeating something often enough, you're likely to get people to start believing it's the truth. Good luck with that.
26CornerBlitz Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 Who doesn't think heated arguments happen in pressure filled business endeavors football or otherwise? Not really an uncommon scenario.
CountDorkula Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 That it wasn't that important. Because if it was: THEY WOULDN'T BE HAVING THE !@#$ING CONVERSATION ON THE PRACTICE FIELD IN FRONT OF PLAYERS AND PRESS! Rodak has more than adequately shown himself to have proclivities for mountainizing anything which even resembles a negative-leaning molehill. So you are just going to ignore the fact this has now happened twice in less than a week? Once during the Bucs game and once on the sidelines at camp. With all the other questions about an already questionable staff, there seems to be a lot of smoke.
GG Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 Fair enough...but "fairly conclusive" by whom? Did Nix say that? Did DW? Did Russ Brandon? And maybe they did and I just missed it...but unless one of those 3 come out and say exactly that, or there is a tell-all biography done some time in the future that refutes these statements by Nix, we can only go by what we *DO* know and not what we can speculate, at least that's how I feel...I can read what is written and postulate an idea or hypothesis but facts remain... It was from accounts from people who were familiar with the process. You cannot go by what the people said in public, because the Bills have excelled in disinformation. If you only take the team's comments as truth, what's your take on Brandon's insistence that Buddy is set here for a long long time?
dpberr Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 (edited) My spidey sense is that it's not about the players but the play calling/offensive practice. I wouldn't be a bit surprised to hear Marrone is getting serious heat to either call plays in lieu of Hackett or to do a Turk Schonert. The play calling isn't getting the job done on the field and the offense keeps practicing the same crap that has shown it doesn't work when it counts. Edited August 26, 2014 by dpberr
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