KOKBILLS Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 just saying, we have no idea what front offices really think of him. what we know is front offices thought he wasnt worth a pick in the first 3 rounds on draft day. thats typically pretty telling. The thing I keep hearing about Cousins is that once teams got film on him they found his weaknesses and that's why he regressed last year....
hondo in seattle Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 Given that none of our 3 young QBs have improved much - if at all - from last year, does anyone else worry about the coaching they're receiving?
Kelly the Dog Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 This is accurate. Cousins is a career backup, but perhaps not a bad one. But definitely not one you trade away a high draft pick for. Yeah, he's a very good backup right now, overall. Would not want him as a starter at all and he wouldn't beat out EJ.
1B4IDie Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 I gotta say...These post are driving me nuts...It's not so much whether I agree or disagree in principle...That's actually not even relevant...It the seemingly bull-headed approach by some Bills fans wanting to completely change the path of reality... The Bills are going with EJ this year...More than likely they are going with him next year as well...They have over a year now invested in his development and they used a 1st round pick on him...No QB is coming in the last week of preseason and pushing EJ unless his name is Manning, Luck, Brady, Rogers, or Brees... It very well may not be the right strategy, but it's the one they are going with...I really don't think they could be any more clear and forthcoming in this matter then they have been...And I don't understand the continuous pounding about bringing someone in now to "push" EJ unless you're just setting up the "I told you so's" for next year... I know man. It is ok. Take a breath. You got to let the silly folks vent and not react. It is August 26th, 2014 there is no possible way to bring in someone to "Push EJ" it is silly to suggest. Don't even react to those posts. I wish you could categorize posters. It would be nice if you could create a good bad and indifferent category then tag people in each category. The posts posted by the people in the Good would be highlighted in Green, Bad Red, and Indifferent would be yellow. That way you can just scroll through and quickly see if there is anything worth reading. Not that you want to ignore all the bad posters. They are entitled to post, but I'm also entitled to dismiss silly statements.
CodeMonkey Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 I would call Washington just to feel them out; - knowing we don't have a first round pic next year, I would offer our entire draft for Cousins! - They have a QB controversy brewing that they don't need. The first time RG3 faulters, they will be calling for Cousins. He may even be better, but they have too much invested to have RG3 a back-up. - I want Manual to succeed, but if he is in trouble after a few weeks, or gets hurt, put in Cousins. - From what I see, this is a good team, too dependant on EJ pulling this off without getting hurt I was listening to ESPN on the ride into work and they were talking about the Rams situation with Bradford going down. There were 4 that the Rams were apparently inquiring about, Cousins, Mallet, and Sanchez. I forget who the 4th was. Apparently the skins won't even listen to people inquiring about Cousins.
26CornerBlitz Posted August 26, 2014 Author Posted August 26, 2014 @buffalobills #Bills release QB Thad Lewis, sign QB Jordan Palmer (@JwPalms) http://ow.ly/AJKmZ @ChrisBrownBills Details on QB Jordan Palmer, who was having a productive preseason in Chicago. #Bills http://ow.ly/AJKYp
DC Greg Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 just saying, we have no idea what front offices really think of him. what we know is front offices thought he wasnt worth a pick in the first 3 rounds on draft day. thats typically pretty telling. Yes, that's true. It's an opinion on my part based on the assumption the the Skins front office coming out publicly to deny their intention of trading him is borne of actual interest on the part of other teams and not just responding to fan rumors. I've seen a number of NFL "insiders" also report that teams have approached the Redskins about potential trades (mostly on NFL network). I mean obviously I don't personally know the depth of it, but seeing multiple reports leads me to believe there has been interest. Every team passed on Russell Wilson two or three times. Every team passed on Brady six times. I don't mean to cherry pick examples, but just because he was a fourth round pick doesn't mean the scouts knew it all. Similarly, just because EJ was a first round pick doesn't mean our scouts hit on a winner. And KOKBILLS, you are correct. This is really just pointless talk. Will never happen. EJ is our starter. But it still interests me.
Mr. WEO Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 No, he's better because he has actually played well before, in college, in the pros, got drafted, is bigger, smarter, has a better arm. Tuel is weak in every aspect. Palmer has done absolutley nothing in the pros except bounce around and get cut. He's thrown 15 passes in 4 season, none the past 2. He's nothing.
freeagentqb Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 If I'm Whaley, I'd identify the best #2 and #3 QB's on every teams roster and work the phones to death to make a trade.........
NoSaint Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 Yes, that's true. It's an opinion on my part based on the assumption the the Skins front office coming out publicly to deny their intention of trading him is borne of actual interest on the part of other teams and not just responding to fan rumors. I've seen a number of NFL "insiders" also report that teams have approached the Redskins about potential trades (mostly on NFL network). I mean obviously I don't personally know the depth of it, but seeing multiple reports leads me to believe there has been interest. Every team passed on Russell Wilson two or three times. Every team passed on Brady six times. I don't mean to cherry pick examples, but just because he was a fourth round pick doesn't mean the scouts knew it all. Similarly, just because EJ was a first round pick doesn't mean our scouts hit on a winner. And KOKBILLS, you are correct. This is really just pointless talk. Will never happen. EJ is our starter. But it still interests me. oh, i get it. thats why i put "typically telling" and not "end all be all of this discussion" the guy was seen to have limitations. im not sure hes shown that hes past those limitations. if he had, the skins would likely have had an offer they couldnt refuse already. as is, no ones pulled the trigger in a qb needy league. where theres smoke, theres normally fire, but ive yet to see indication of any real heat to the talks.
artmalibu Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 Hoping EJ shows improvement over last year and stays healthy. He has played with a revolving door on the O-line, so lets hope that stabilizes.
Kelly the Dog Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 Palmer has done absolutley nothing in the pros except bounce around and get cut. He's thrown 15 passes in 4 season, none the past 2. He's nothing. Practice and preseason is the pros. It's what got a LOT of players jobs, especially QB. It's what, unfortunately for us, got Jeff Tuel a job. Not to mention the five other reasons you ignored why he is better.
Mike in Horseheads Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 Bring back Brad Smith... he can run the wildcat...hahahhahahaha....ugh.
dubs Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 The question isn't whether Palmer is better than Thad it Tuel, it's is he worse. Since it's impossible to be worse than either or those guys, there's a decent chance he's an improvement. Hopefully EJ plays well enough and stays healthy enough to make it a moot point, but I'm glad the FO finally recognized how bad our backup situation was.
eball Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 The truth is, if EJ stays healthy this all becomes moot. Last year, while going though injuries (his own and to his WRs and RBs), no veteran QB presence, and no QB coach, EJ put up numbers that were slightly above average (historically) for a rookie QB. This season the OL appears to be improved, the receivers and backs are healthy to start the season, EJ himself is stronger and healthier (and has had another year of an NFL conditioning program), he's operating the same system, and has a QB coach. Why would we not expect improvement? If the defense is as good as advertised (top 10 or better) and EJ shows reasonable progression, the offense should be middle of the pack and the Bills become a very dangerous team. Despite the lack of TDs I've seen enough out of EJ this preseason to believe he has already progressed significantly beyond where he was last year. He has also taken some big hits and is none the worse for wear -- the fumble play last Saturday scared me because his knees had to absorb an awkward hit as he fell. I still want a veteran besides Palmer brought in, but this season is all about the health of EJ.
Mr. WEO Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 Practice and preseason is the pros. It's what got a LOT of players jobs, especially QB. It's what, unfortunately for us, got Jeff Tuel a job. Not to mention the five other reasons you ignored why he is better. The other reasons? I don't know that he is smarter. He had a mediocre career at UTEP. He was drafted in the 6th round. So now "preseason" matters, eh? Well, Palmer has been so impressive in preseason that he has been cut in 3 of his 4--including from the Bears just now...in favor of Jimmy Clausen! Strong argument there Kelly! Getting rid of Thad for this dumpster dweller is just a goofy move by Whaley.
bonechiller Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 I DON'T WANT A GUY WHO IS A GOOD #2 OR # 3! I want someone who has the potential to be a starter and win freakin' games IF EJ gets hurt or doesn't work out. If they have to sit and watch EJ win, so be it, yay.
Kelly the Dog Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 The other reasons? I don't know that he is smarter. He had a mediocre career at UTEP. He was drafted in the 6th round. So now "preseason" matters, eh? Well, Palmer has been so impressive in preseason that he has been cut in 3 of his 4--including from the Bears just now...in favor of Jimmy Clausen! Strong argument there Kelly! Getting rid of Thad for this dumpster dweller is just a goofy move by Whaley. He's paid to be a QB mentor to other QBs around the league. He's known for being smart. That's his advantage. He had a much better career at UTEP than Tuel did at Wsu. He's got a strong arm. He was drafted in the fifth round. Six teams have signed him which means they thought he had some talent. Four on their active rosters. No team would sign Tuel. You're talking nonsense. He also hd a good preseason this year. Tuel has been horrible.
May Day 10 Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 Its a shame. Lewis showed some real promise last season and had a real opportunity.
John from Riverside Posted August 26, 2014 Posted August 26, 2014 Been saying it from day one, why would you EVER trade up in the draft to get a WIDE RECEIVER when you don't even know if you have your QB! Because Sammy Watkins is that kind of player that can make a average QB look much better......and we perennially do not do bad enough to get into the blue chip prospect QB's..... Thats why
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