3rdnlng Posted August 26, 2014 Author Share Posted August 26, 2014 I'm no lawyer, but this was pretty easy to find...specifically N.Y. EXC. LAW 296.2(a) http://codes.lp.find...code/EXC/15/296 Timely post about non-existent laws, dumbass! Friggin morons...next time do your own research. I should be charging for the education you mouth-breathers are receiving here. lol All in good fun of course! You have a reading comprehension problem. Discriminating against people because of their sexual orientation is different than not hosting and participating in a marriage ceremony. I also didn't see anywhere in that law where a person can't discriminate against who sleeps in their bed. Now as far as charging us for an education in this matter we could just as easily file suit against you for poor performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 (edited) You have a reading comprehension problem. Discriminating against people because of their sexual orientation is different than not hosting and participating in a marriage ceremony. I also didn't see anywhere in that law where a person can't discriminate against who sleeps in their bed. Now as far as charging us for an education in this matter we could just as easily file suit against you for poor performance. I'll make it simple for you: 1. Christian farmers own a place of public accommodation. 2. Christian farmers allow customers to hold wedding ceremonies at said place of public accommodation. 3. Christian farmers allow customers to sleep in their bed at said place of public accommodation. 4. Christian farmers wish to discriminate against some customers by preventing them from holding wedding ceremonies or sleeping in their bed at said place of public accommodation because of said customers' sexual orientation. 5. Christian farmers have violated N.Y. EXC. LAW 296.2(a), are found guilty and are made to pay $13,000. 6. Christian righties at PPP get their panties in a wad because they don't like the law. Edited August 26, 2014 by Gene Frenkle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 I'll make it simple for you: 1. Christian farmers are a ...dime a dozen? ...target audience for ChristianFarmerMingle.com? ... whole lot better at their job than atheist farmers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 I'll make it simple for you: 1. Christian farmers are a Diminishing breed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 ...dime a dozen? ...target audience for ChristianFarmerMingle.com? ... whole lot better at their job than atheist farmers? Diminishing breed? My fat fingers + smartphone = PPP hilarity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 My fat fingers + smartphone = PPP hilarity! I too know the pain of that equation. My sympathies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 I too know the pain of that equation. My sympathies. Y'know, I enjoy posting here during the day, but the idea of doing it on a freaking phone makes no sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Y'know, I enjoy posting here during the day, but the idea of doing it on a freaking phone makes no sense to me. My experiences with it are more in text form -- I try not to post much from any mobile device simply because it's too frustrating. The text f-ups because of fat fingers+small screen are usually far more humiliating and ultimately more entertaining though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 I'll never understand the broken mindset in which someone else's desire to use my property as they see fit trumps my own right to use my own property as I see fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 My experiences with it are more in text form -- I try not to post much from any mobile device simply because it's too frustrating. The text f-ups because of fat fingers+small screen are usually far more humiliating and ultimately more entertaining though. Once I found the way speak my texts, I gave up trying to type on the damn thing for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 I'll never understand the broken mindset in which someone else's desire to use my property as they see fit trumps my own right to use my own property as I see fit. In this case it's more like 'utilize all of the services your business provides' because you're doing business in NYS. You may discriminate all you like if you're not running a public business of course. It makes you kind of a huge a-hole, but that's merely subjective and it's well within your rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Once I found the way speak my texts, I gave up trying to type on the damn thing for good. This is a great call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly McButterpants Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 In this case it's more like 'utilize all of the services your business provides' because you're doing business in NYS. You may discriminate all you like if you're not running a public business of course. It makes you kind of a huge a-hole, but that's merely subjective and it's well within your rights. Your right to a gay marriage ceremony should not trump the constitutionally protected right to free exercise of religion. The "patrons" in question had, I'm sure, plenty of choices for locations to hold their ceremony. That they decided to call this place, record the call, and then report their situation to the "proper authorities" speaks volumes about how this all came about. The free enterprise system works both ways. There are plenty of people at my workplace who will not patronize Chick-Fil-A . . .Choices, freedom, etc . . .that's what it's about. Not a fascist-style drumbeat to which we all must march. That's the part that you don't get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 I'll never understand the broken mindset in which someone else's desire to use my property as they see fit trumps my own right to use my own property as I see fit. If you pay property taxes you are not an owner you are a tenant renting- if you were an owner they could merely deny services for refusal to pay property taxes not take the property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 I'll make it simple for you: 1. Christian farmers own a place of public accommodation. 2. Christian farmers allow customers to hold wedding ceremonies at said place of public accommodation. 3. Christian farmers allow customers to sleep in their bed at said place of public accommodation. 4. Christian farmers wish to discriminate against some customers by preventing them from holding wedding ceremonies or sleeping in their bed at said place of public accommodation because of said customers' sexual orientation. 5. Christian farmers have violated N.Y. EXC. LAW 296.2(a), are found guilty and are made to pay $13,000. 6. Christian righties at PPP get their panties in a wad because they don't like the law. What if I (a non-believer) refused to accommodate them. Would be spending as much time and effort? Probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 If you pay property taxes you are not an owner you are a tenant renting- if you were an owner they could merely deny services for refusal to pay property taxes not take the property. I'm going to assume that you mis-typed something, and instead of responding, I will simply ask for clarification. in the first half of your post, are you saying that because someone pays property tax, that they are not owners of that property, but merely renting it? could you please explain the second half of your post? I'm not getting anything..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 You have a reading comprehension problem. Discriminating against people because of their sexual orientation is different than not hosting and participating in a marriage ceremony. I also didn't see anywhere in that law where a person can't discriminate against who sleeps in their bed. Now as far as charging us for an education in this matter we could just as easily file suit against you for poor performance. While I don't dispute he has a reading comprehension problem, 2(a) in his link is written in such a way that he's right. But 2(a) was written SO poorly, that he can only be right accidentally. Ye Gods, what a train wreck of a sentence. I'm going to assume that you mis-typed something, and instead of responding, I will simply ask for clarification. in the first half of your post, are you saying that because someone pays property tax, that they are not owners of that property, but merely renting it? could you please explain the second half of your post? I'm not getting anything..... Explain the second half? The whole "property taxes mean you're renting" made sense to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Explain the second half? The whole "property taxes mean you're renting" made sense to you? ignoring the irony in having to clarify my own post, please note that I addressed his first statement with a question beginning with 'in the first half of your post....' so no, absolutely none of it made a damn bit of sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted August 26, 2014 Author Share Posted August 26, 2014 I'm going to assume that you mis-typed something, and instead of responding, I will simply ask for clarification. in the first half of your post, are you saying that because someone pays property tax, that they are not owners of that property, but merely renting it? could you please explain the second half of your post? I'm not getting anything..... Lyrbob knows very little about real estate. I've been waiting years for him to tell me what expertise he has in the real estate and mortgage industries. I questioned him after he posted some rather inane statements with one of them having a glaring error that proved that he had no knowledge. He also posts stuff with no links making it difficult to check his "facts". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 ignoring the irony in having to clarify my own post, please note that I addressed his first statement with a question beginning with 'in the first half of your post....' so no, absolutely none of it made a damn bit of sense to me. The second half of his post was predicated on the first half. It couldn't possibly make any sense without the first half being explained. (Aside from the second half being grammatically unparseable, that is.) Lyrbob knows very little about real estate. I've been waiting years for him to tell me what expertise he has in the real estate and mortgage industries. I questioned him after he posted some rather inane statements with one of them having a glaring error that proved that he had no knowledge. He also posts stuff with no links making it difficult to check his "facts". He knows "banks" are "evil" because... ...well... ...because! So there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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