The Dean Posted September 3, 2014 Posted September 3, 2014 I'm a bit puzzled by this argument. TE had an overall completion percentage with the Bills of 60.9% (low of 55.8% and a high of 65.8%). Fitz, 59.8% (low of 55.9% and a high of 62%). Are you trying to argue that 1% completion percentage difference is major? Or is this simply a convoluted way of saying "a team does better with any QB throwing more completions"? Personally, I think the difference between the Bills 7-9 record in 2008, when TE had a 65.5% completion percentage, vs 6-10, when Ryan Fitzpatrick had a 62% completion percentage had to do more with defense - the fact in 2008 we had the 14th ranked defense on both points and yards, vs. 2011 when we had the 30th ranked defense on points and 26th on yards. Somehow Jauron and Fewell managed to do more with less on D. Aside: I looked this up and was shocked to see that Trent Edwards actually threw more INTs than TDs in his 4 years in St Louis - 25 TDs to 27 INTs. Fitz was 80 TD to 64 INTs. Once again (how many more times to I have to explain this?), I was in a discussion with a poster who seemed to initially be taking the position that stats don't matter. He used Trent and Fitz in an example. I was simply trying to refute that example, while at the same time explaining my position. I wouldn't have chosen Fitz and Trent as the best examples for this exercise, for many reasons, but mostly because there wasn't much difference between them. With that said, I do stand by the position that, with some very rare exceptions, an NFL QB, in this modern era, should be expected to complete 60+ percent of his passes. This is particularly true for game manager type QBs. When the completion percentage starts dipping into the 50's (even low 50's) that simply isn't good enough to get it done. When you start to get into that miserable completion percentage, if that QB's team is winning, he probably isn't doing too much to help the process.
dave mcbride Posted September 3, 2014 Posted September 3, 2014 I'm a bit puzzled by this argument. TE had an overall completion percentage with the Bills of 60.9% (low of 55.8% and a high of 65.8%). Fitz, 59.8% (low of 55.9% and a high of 62%). Are you trying to argue that 1% completion percentage difference is major? Or is this simply a convoluted way of saying "a team does better with any QB throwing more completions"? Personally, I think the difference between the Bills 7-9 record in 2008, when TE had a 65.5% completion percentage, vs 6-10, when Ryan Fitzpatrick had a 62% completion percentage had to do more with defense - the fact in 2008 we had the 14th ranked defense on both points and yards, vs. 2011 when we had the 30th ranked defense on points and 26th on yards. Somehow Jauron and Fewell managed to do more with less on D. Aside: I looked this up and was shocked to see that Trent Edwards actually threw more INTs than TDs in his 4 years in St Louis - 25 TDs to 27 INTs. Fitz was 80 TD to 64 INTs. In games in which Edwards more than one third of one quarter in 2008, the Bills were 7-6, not 7-9. They were 0-2 in games Losman started and 0-3 in games he playedthe majority of the game.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 3, 2014 Posted September 3, 2014 I understand the frustration that led you to that choice. But... Do you ever feel, I dunno.... DIRTY when you put on Steelers gear? Just a little, even? I wanna take a shower just THINKING about it, -yeeeesh! NO-KAN-DU, my freind... I hope you find peace with your decision. (but you probably won't though) Dude, I think the thread you want is down the hall, third door on the right. This here is a Bills thread.
#34fan Posted September 3, 2014 Posted September 3, 2014 Dude, I think the thread you want is down the hall, third door on the right. This here is a Bills thread. Ah, that was from the ex-fan thread... Fixed.
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