Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 http://www.foxsports.com/buzzer/story/mike-ditka-washington-redskins-name-change-political-correct-idiots-081914 Agree 1000% He could probably run for president and win after this! Spoken like only Ditka could! Never liked the guy all that much till today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 This is why we do not put many football players in front of a camera. The truth may be told but it will likely rub you like sandpaper. Also, if this can make it 24 hours and not end up in PPP or locked, I will be amazed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Ditka's a moron possibly suffering from dementia. This is just further proof. And yes, this is a PPP thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 More importantly, who would win in a fight...ditka, or god? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Diesel-USMC Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Ditka +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 This is why we do not put many football players in front of a camera. The truth may be told but it will likely rub you like sandpaper. Also, if this can make it 24 hours and not end up in PPP or locked, I will be amazed. It'll be lucky to make it past noon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 We need more Ditka's in this world! I'd buy that guy a beer for speaking the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 And yes, this is a PPP thread. Highly likely to go there .... For a moment it will ride here. How long before Ditka issues a public apology? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Diesel-USMC Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Highly likely to go there .... For a moment it will ride here. How long before Ditka issues a public apology? By force or by choice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 By force or by choice? He's so eloquent and what impeccable logic! Liberals bad! Bigotry good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Diesel-USMC Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 He's so eloquent and what impeccable logic! Liberals bad! Bigotry good! Logical, technically. Eloquent, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramblin' Rob Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Logical, technically. Eloquent, no. Soo...bigotry is logical? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 He's so eloquent and what impeccable logic! Liberals bad! Bigotry good! Ha ha, well said Dean. It's a little weird that people want to give him a big pat on the back for being a bigot. He is certainly ignorant on the topic as his comments clearly indicate. The issue isn't that it offends people that look like me, the issue is that it offends the Native Americans. This isn't "political correctness" it's human decency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Ha ha, well said Dean. It's a little weird that people want to give him a big pat on the back for being a bigot. He is certainly ignorant on the topic as his comments clearly indicate. The issue isn't that it offends people that look like me, the issue is that it offends the Native Americans. This isn't "political correctness" it's human decency. There's no room for decency in Ditka's NFL, you pansy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 HOF TE. Lucky coach that Buddy Ryan gifted him a SuperBowl. Bigot. Moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Diesel-USMC Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 (edited) Soo...bigotry is logical? Don't make it something it's not. It's a ridiculous disagreement when not even 3/4 of the questioned population think its a derogatory term, its easy to look up the history behind the name, and the fact that, with the 3,457 things that could be focused on to fix in this country, we decide to emphasize this after 60+ years. Human decency is monitoring the smut we provide our children over mass media, helping those unable to help themselves, ect. It is not changing the name of a sports team because 1 out of 10 people don't agree with it. If we allow the smut to come from television and music in the name of free speech and art, this name is no different. It's easy for someone to cling to catch all titles such as liberal and conservative because it makes it easy for them to form our opinions. But at some point, you have to say "wait a minute, how does this make sense". All I am saying is, if you start changing everything over a very minute number of people dont like it. Especially something as petty as a professional sports team name, then get ready to change quite a bit because we've all got the honey do lists of things we don't like. If I were the Redskins would I change the name? Most likely I would, but forcing them too because we can.....well,that's not the right way to do it. So, Ditkas statement about political correctness making messes out of things, is 97% true. From what I've read, the term Redskin was not originally a word used as a derogatory title. Nothing he said was bigotry. He never used the term to describe the Native American population. His comment was on the absurdity of the bickering. Edited August 20, 2014 by ninja rooster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 This is from a guy that traded his whole draft for Ricky Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Dog Named Kelso Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 lol I thought we covered this a few times already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Don't make it something it's not. It's a ridiculous disagreement when not even 3/4 of the questioned population think its a derogatory term, its easy to look up the history behind the name, and the fact that, with the 3,457 things that could be focused on to fix in this country, we decide to emphasize this after 60+ years. Human decency is monitoring the smut we provide our children over mass media, helping those unable to help themselves, ect. It is not changing the name of a sports team because 1 out of 10 people don't agree with it. If we allow the smut to come from television and music in the name of free speech and art, this name is no different. It's easy for someone to cling to catch all titles such as liberal and conservative because it makes it easy for them to form our opinions. But at some point, you have to say "wait a minute, how does this make sense". All I am saying is, if you start changing everything over a very minute number of people dont like it. Especially something as petty as a professional sports team name, then get ready to change quite a bit because we've all got the honey do lists of things we don't like. If I were the Redskins would I change the name? Most likely I would, but forcing them too because we can.....well,that's not the right way to do it. So, Ditkas statement about political correctness making messes out of things, is 97% true. The only people who count in the poll are Native Americans. You could have done a poll in the south in the 60's and found that people didn't find the N word derogatory.I'd love to see the methodology and the instrument to see where these findngs come from. I'm 57 years old. In my lifetime I that word has always been a derogatory term. (BTW, the origin of the term is in dispute, but it hasn't' been complementary for years, if it ever was.) I would never even think of calling a Native American a "redskin" to his/her face. I'm not an ignorant fool. Naming a team Redskins is different than a team named The Indians and quite different that a team named The Chiefs. Chiefs is an honorarium. So is Braves. Indians may now be in dispute, but it isn't a derogatory term for Native Americans, just a sloppy one, and maybe should be changed, too. You might name a team The Jews, but would you name them The Kikes? Of course not. The absolute worst argument one can use is that the name has been used since 1932. Since when has historical bigotry been a defense of bigotry? We have evolved. Why must the recognition of the rights, and feelings of those who aren't white, Christian, etc always be fought as if it is a completely new thing? Why must these old ways be defended until the bitter end. Maybe conservatives would have a bigger base if they became proactive on some of these issues. Get in front of a social issue, for once---and not one that drags us back into the 50's. The funny thing is, Snyder could have been a hero in this and made a TON of money. Think of all the money he would have made on new gear? Now it's the inevitable with another old rich white guy backing the wrong side. A shame, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Mike Ditka's proof that there has been a concussion problem in the NFL for a long time. "Redskins" isn't a liberal construct, it's a racial slur. Anyone defending that idiocy should be asked to go visit a native american tribe and refer to them repeatedly as "redskins". Maybe when LA gets a team they can be called the "Yellow Bastards" or the "Blackies" Idiot........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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