Rico Posted January 26, 2005 Posted January 26, 2005 From a panel of NFL "insiders" 25. RB Willis McGahee "An incredible season for a player whose strength was supposed to be speed. If he gets a step (back), who is better?" 37. CB Nate Clements "Prototype cornerback finally seems comfortable in man coverage. Extremely competitive and versatile playmaker with toughness. He was very consistent all season. There wasn't one cornerback who didn't get beat, but Clements kept the damage minimal." Honorable mention Sam Adams, TKO
stevestojan Posted January 26, 2005 Posted January 26, 2005 "If he gets a step (back), who is better?" Wow - these next couple years are gonna be fun... with him and Evans? Yikes!
bflo83 Posted January 26, 2005 Posted January 26, 2005 From a panel of NFL "insiders" 25. RB Willis McGahee "An incredible season for a player whose strength was supposed to be speed. If he gets a step (back), who is better?" 37. CB Nate Clements "Prototype cornerback finally seems comfortable in man coverage. Extremely competitive and versatile playmaker with toughness. He was very consistent all season. There wasn't one cornerback who didn't get beat, but Clements kept the damage minimal." Honorable mention Sam Adams, TKO 219682[/snapback] Pretty on the mark. I would have thrown Lee Evans into the honorable mentions.
stevestojan Posted January 26, 2005 Posted January 26, 2005 BTW, what about Travis Henry? <crickets chirping>
duey Posted January 26, 2005 Posted January 26, 2005 "If he gets a step (back), who is better?" Wow - these next couple years are gonna be fun... with him and Evans? Yikes! 219693[/snapback] I think we have only seen a fraction of what these two guys are capable of.
Like A Mofo Posted January 26, 2005 Posted January 26, 2005 BTW, what about Travis Henry? <crickets chirping> 219702[/snapback] 15 in honor of his female age preference???
bflo83 Posted January 26, 2005 Posted January 26, 2005 15 in honor of his female age preference??? 219704[/snapback] Hey - don't make fun of him or his trade value will decrease...
BillsNYC Posted January 26, 2005 Posted January 26, 2005 From a panel of NFL "insiders" 37. CB Nate Clements "Prototype cornerback finally seems comfortable in man coverage. Extremely competitive and versatile playmaker with toughness. He was very consistent all season. There wasn't one cornerback who didn't get beat, but Clements kept the damage minimal." 219682[/snapback] all except for the Jax game....
Rico Posted January 26, 2005 Author Posted January 26, 2005 come ON...give us the whole text. 219737[/snapback] Unless someone else beats me to it, I'll try later... there's a lot of HTML to clean up.
Fake-Fat Sunny Posted January 26, 2005 Posted January 26, 2005 all except for the Jax game.... 219720[/snapback] I think the Jax game proved to be a learning experience for Clements which painfully taught him the lesson to do what is necessary to win, nothing less certainly and if doing more is about style points fuggadabouit also.
Rico Posted January 27, 2005 Author Posted January 27, 2005 1. QB Peyton Manning 2. QB Donovan McNabb 3. WR Terrell Owens 4. QB Daunte Culpepper 5. RB Curtis Martin 6. QB Drew Brees 7. QB Tom Brady 8. RB Corey Dillon 9. QB Ben Roethlisberger 10. RB LaDainian Tomlinson 11. FS Ed Reed 12. WR Muhsin Muhammad 13. DE Dwight Freeney 14. QB Brett Favre 15. ILB James Farrior 16. OT Willie Roaf 17. QB Michael Vick 18. RB Tiki Barber 19. TE Antonio Gates 20. OG Alan Faneca 21. WR Marvin Harrison 22. RB Edgerrin James 23. RB Shaun Alexander 24. DL Richard Seymour 25. RB Willis McGahee 26. TE Tony Gonzalez 27. OT Walter Jones 28. RB Jerome Bettis 29. CB Shawn Springs 30. SS Rodney Harrison 31. WR Javon Walker 32. DE Julius Peppers 33. DT Kevin Williams 34. WR Torry Holt 35. NT Jamal Williams 36. RB Brian Westbrook 37. CB Nate Clements 38. DT Cornelius Griffin 39. TE Alge Crumpler 40. FS Brian Dawkins 41. OG Damien Woody 42. DT John Henderson 43. DE Aaron Smith 44. OT Chad Clifton 45. WR Randy Moss 46. C Kevin Mawae 47. DT Shaun Rogers 48. ILB Donnie Edwards 49. OG Brian Waters 50. TE Jason Witten Honorable mention DT Sam Adams CB Ronde Barber DE Bertrand Berry WLB Derrick Brooks CB Sheldon Brown ILB Tedy Bruschi DT Rod Coleman CB Al Harris C Jeff Hartings WR Joe Horn CB Tory James RB Rudi Johnson RB Kevin Jones SS Troy Polamalu OT Marvel Smith LB Takeo Spikes DT Marcus Stroud, WR Reggie Wayne
bartshan-83 Posted January 27, 2005 Posted January 27, 2005 Brees over Brady?? Muhammad over Harrison and Moss??
bobblehead Posted January 27, 2005 Posted January 27, 2005 Randy Moss is #45? No John Abraham? Tedi Bruschi not in the top 50?
Rico Posted January 27, 2005 Author Posted January 27, 2005 Muhammad over Harrison and Moss??220518[/snapback] I'd agree with that, Muhammed had a monster year with the Panthers. Even with all those injuries to other starters & everyone keying on him, he couldn't be stopped.
bartshan-83 Posted January 27, 2005 Posted January 27, 2005 There's no doubt that he is a stud and had a monster year. But you really think he is better than Moss and Harrison overall? They are arguably the top 2 WRs in the game (or top 3). What Muhammad did this year is the norm for those two.
Rico Posted January 27, 2005 Author Posted January 27, 2005 There's no doubt that he is a stud and had a monster year. But you really think he is better than Moss and Harrison overall? They are arguably the top 2 WRs in the game (or top 3). What Muhammad did this year is the norm for those two. 220608[/snapback] Overall, no. This year, yes... and that's what the "experts" were evaluating.
bartshan-83 Posted January 27, 2005 Posted January 27, 2005 Overall, no. This year, yes... and that's what the "experts" were evaluating. 220611[/snapback] Oh sh--. I didn't even realize it was an evaluation for just this year. I agree.
Mile High Posted January 27, 2005 Posted January 27, 2005 Anyone else think that Ed Reed and the way he played this year should be in the top three of this list? I do.
drnykterstein Posted January 27, 2005 Posted January 27, 2005 well, when moss is #45 on this list, and champ bailey is not even on it (and those are just the two largest mistakes).... well I can only draw one conclusion, this list was based on player statistics, and the makers of the list never actually watched any football. and thus this list loses all credibility and is just another waste of everyone's time.
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