FluffHead Posted August 17, 2014 Author Share Posted August 17, 2014 Something tells me this is all connected to tipster calling Pegula "petulant" the other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who is Yuri? Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 When is the last time that Tim Graham had a named source on record? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who is Yuri? Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Tim Graham is a Pegula lobbyist. He's been attacking the other bidders and "reporting" how everybody in Buffalo would be behind Pegula for weeks now. He worships Terry's money. http://ferrall.radio.cbssports.com/2014/07/31/tim-graham-everybody-would-be-behind-terry-pegula/ http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/bon-jovi-letter-trump-bluster-apparently-violate-bills-nondisclosure-agreement-20140804 http://www.wgr550.com/pages/9034669.php?pid=421136 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Well... I'm confused. Seriously! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 When is the last time that Tim Graham had a named source on record? And ... when was the last time I did in the sale process? Trust me or don't, don't care. I'll stand by Tim in what he reported today. jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Tim Graham is a Pegula lobbyist. He's been attacking the other bidders and "reporting" how everybody in Buffalo would be behind Pegula for weeks now. He worships Terry's money. http://ferrall.radio...d-terry-pegula/ http://www.buffalone...eement-20140804 http://www.wgr550.co....php?pid=421136 so, you're a JBJ supporter, then, eh? hey, just asking given that much of the Buffalo business community has lined up behind Terry and Kim, and they're likely to get the team? jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who is Yuri? Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 (edited) Does that fit your narrative too, John? Against Pegula = For Bon Jovi? Much of the business community = Everybody in Buffalo? I guess when it's dumbed down like that, Terry's the only option. It's clear to me that Tim's crusading for Pegula, especially when he attempts to smear Kelly with this article. Edited August 17, 2014 by Franz Kafka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloriles Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 There isn't that many choices Kafka.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who is Yuri? Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I've got a third party candidate running a clean campaign on the Independence Party ticket. I don't want to say his name, for fear that Tim Graham will try to link him to Bon Jovi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Does that fit your narrative too, John? Against Pegula = For Bon Jovi? Much of the business community = Everybody in Buffalo? I guess when it's dumbed down like that, Terry's the only option. It's clear to me that Tim's crusading for Pegula, especially when he attempts to smear Kelly with this article. If it's true (which it seems to be) is it a smear? If Kelly did meet with JBJ, he could have just released a statement saying "we met with the JBJ group to see how committed they were to keeping the team here." Tim Graham knew how the reader would interrupt the tweet and article and could have clarified. This is a manufactured controversy by Graham. The clicks and attention are exactly what he wants. The beat course of action for everyone is just ignore it. He's reporting news. If there are still open questions, it's completely ok for him to report the news he knows, and leave the questions open. That people speculate and see it how they want to see should not be blamed on the reporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Just a hail-Mary play by Bon Jovi. Actually, if he did talk to Jim Kelly, it was a smart move on his part. He should have got JK on his side from the beginning, that would have helped his PR. Regardless, this is a non-story in the end, Bon Jovi's bid to own the Bills was over with his first poor bid and lame attempt to move them to Toronto. Go buy the Giants BJ, your real love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Fully expect Jon BJ to bring back Richie Sambora back in the band. to get at least his Musical career back on track. This, of course After getting his ass handed to him by men who can afford NFL teams. And have no obvious unpopular agendas or alignments with TO business men. it would be nice for Kelly to issue a statement so the silly speculation can stop. his wife's tweet doesn't count. That's assuming his health is allowing him even to consider, what the demands, and the outrageous Commitment of time and energy to do the job he supposedly wants. His brother has no place in the NFL or Anywhere for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 By "discussed," does he mean "punching him in the face"? My first thought also On another note, if true, those demands by Kelly are seriously ridiculous, "Two sources familiar with the sales process told The News the Kellys have made lofty partnership demands: 2 percent equity in the team, lifetime jobs for Jim and Dan, an up-front cash payment for their services and final say on all football decisions." http://bills.buffalonews.com/2014/08/16/jim-kelly-jon-bon-jovi-discussed-joining-forces-buy-bills/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 (edited) If it's true (which it seems to be) is it a smear? If Kelly did meet with JBJ, he could have just released a statement saying "we met with the JBJ group to see how committed they were to keeping the team here." He's reporting news. If there are still open questions, it's completely ok for him to report the news he knows, and leave the questions open. That people speculate and see it how they want to see should not be blamed on the reporter. Incorrect. A misleading story should absolutely be blamed on the reporter. It's not a debate. Tim Graham intentionally mislead the readership to believe Kelly would be involved in a group that wants to move the Bills. The reporter could have clarified the story but instead choose to mislead the readers in order to get more clicks. Edited August 17, 2014 by Why So Serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Incorrect. A misleading story should absolutely be blamed on the reporter. It's not a debate. Tim Graham intentionally mislead the readership to believe Kelly would be involved in a group that wants to move the Bills. The reporter could have clarified the story but instead choose to mislead the readers in order to get more clicks. bull ****. Graham reported that Kelly met with JBJ. That's what he reported. Assuming it happened, it's not misleading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 (edited) Congratulations. Once again, you have no conception of reality. Of course, I assume you were taking a shot because of Kelly's long help position he has a "group" to buy the Bills. But I question why you appear, in thread after thread, to basically make a comment which contributes nothing. Wrong again. There have been several threads started here going back to April about Kelly's desire to align with a group, or that he has, in fact, already done so. That's why I asked. Warwow wrote this one in April: http://bigstory.ap.o...lo-bills-buyers "Hall of Fame quarterback Jim Kelly is prepared to make a bid to buy the Buffalo Bills. Donald Trump's on board, too." Also, Graham (who's reporting is vouched for by Warwow) in Saturday's story mentions that Kelly's group (which was really Gundlach's group, per Graham) had met with the Trust first, before this stuff about BJB and Pegula came out. It was a simple question, the Dean. Since Kelly was already partnered with someone, that's why I asked it. Edited August 17, 2014 by Mr. WEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Jim is just trying to hook up with who ever he can. He wants in with no big money. I believe Tim. Kelly is terrible in business . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Speculation + lack of reading comprehension by an audience does not = bad reporting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Jim is just trying to hook up with who ever he can. He wants in with no big money. I believe Tim. Kelly is terrible in business . We all love the guy but he did score a 15 on the Wonderlic. Is that the guy that you want making business decisions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Wrong again. There have been several threads started here going back to April about Kelly's desire to align with a group, or that he has, in fact, already done so. That's why I asked. Warwow wrote this one in April: http://bigstory.ap.o...lo-bills-buyers Also, Graham (who's reporting is vouched for by Warwow) in Saturday's story mentions that Kelly's group (which was really Gundlach's group, per Graham) had met with the Trust first, before this stuff about BJB and Pegula came out. It was a simple question, the Dean. Since Kelly was already partnered with someone, that's why I asked it. Kelly doesn't have the money to buy the Bills. He's apparently teamed with Gundlach who also doesn't have the money. Now they have talked with JBJ who also doesn't have the money. The groups are looking for ways to put together a team that: Has enough money. Can satisfy the Trust on non-relocation. Can get NFL approval. Could we see a "Super Group" emerge to challenge Pegula? Wouldn't shock me in the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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