Mr. WEO Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 This visor looks pretty clear to me..... If i can see his eyes, i think someone standing next to him in the huddle can.... He's staring down a receiver..
John from Riverside Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 yes, it tells me that he has restricted vision and he has not grasped the concept of leadership, a most important aspect of being the QB, seriously Caveman So you think because of a visor EJ Manuel has not grasped leadership? Talk about your fail threads
Rocky Landing Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 When Trent was here 1 very noticeable trait he had was demanding a coat on his shoulders for every time out. Before talking to the coach, or showing leadership he was focused on himself not the game. I hated this action. A real leader would not even think of the coat. JK showed toughness Trent showed he was a wimp. EJ now wears a closed front helmet with visor. The spacing in the eye area is small with extra bars and then a visor added. His vision is restricted and most important in the huddle eye contact with his teammates is interfered with. Real winning QBs like Manning (2), Brady, Russell Wilson, Favre, Cutler, Roethlisberger want to see, be seen by teammates, and show emotion and strength in the huddle. Can you imagine JK chewing out House Ballard hiding behind a shield, Many QBs used to unstrap the helmet in the huddle to look at teammates in the eyes and then snap it at the line. EJ hides. RBs and Lineman can hide, QBs have to lead. This is an observation but in my thoughts one that is troubling. (ps, changing the helmet does not make him a leader but using it is a symbol of isolation rather than strength of leadership.) You remind me of an utterly neurotic girlfriend I used to have. I was drinking my coffee one morning, and she started yelling at me for "criticizing [her] with [my] body language." Once she got mad at me because, apparently, the way I had trimmed my beard meant that I would develop a short temper. But, she never told me that I was selfish because I put on a coat in the winter, or that I lacked leadership skills because I didn't like the glare of bright lights. That would be crazy.
Captain Caveman Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 I'd change his name to Johnny Unitas. I'd go with Johnny Utah, quarterback punk.
John from Riverside Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 If I could change anything I would have EJ Manuel read our fansite more so he can respond more appropriately when giving interviews.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) Geez, people need to get off of Wilsons n***..... He was a better pick than Graham obviously, but Seattle had him starting backup to Flynn if you remember, Despite what people claim, most did not "know" he was going to be a decent qb, and the jury is still out if he is going to be a great qb. Also who does Seattle have to backup Wilson? Jackson and Pryor? Why didn't they draft someone "just in case" to develop and stuff? Its a whole bunch of what ifs and its obnoxious. For every Russell Wilson we could've picked up "as a diamond in the rough" there are a few other QBs we could have wasted picked on too. Just because you witnessed one (russell wilson), or two (tom brady) does not mean we should start wasting draft picks hoping to find one as well. This irks me too. If anyone "knew" anything about the guy he'd have been picked #3 overall or sooner. Many athletic short QBs failed in the nfl before him, and I can't believe there is a rookie out there who wouldn't have done better on a team like Seattle over any other. Talk about being set up for success. He averaged less than 25 attempts per game and under 200 Yards per game. That doesn't win anything unless you have an elite running game and an elite defense. Guess he had both... Edited August 13, 2014 by over 20 years of fanhood
TheBrownBear Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 I know it's a small thing, but has anyone else noticed the way he holds his gatorade cup on the sideline? About 50% of the time he holds it with his pinky sticking out to the side. A worrying sign of his arrogance and inability to connect to the common man.
Bangarang Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 This is the kind of thread I'd expect to see at BBMB.
Captain Caveman Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 If I could change one thing about EJ it would be for him to break the record for most super bowls won by a QB.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 I know it's a small thing, but has anyone else noticed the way he holds his gatorade cup on the sideline? About 50% of the time he holds it with his pinky sticking out to the side. A worrying sign of his arrogance and inability to connect to the common man. Are you freaking kidding me???? There was no mention of this in the scouting report!?!! Did he conceal this during the combine by using squirt bottles? Dammmit.... Season over. If I could change one thing about EJ it would be for him to break the record for most super bowls won by a QB. Winner!
CardinalScotts Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 Still burns me that Russell Wilson was there for us ---and we picked a loser WR from a garbage program. We wouldn't be having all of this EJ talk... sorry. unless Wilson was coming with his kick butt o -line and a dominating run game, and a smoothering defense it wouldn't have mattered. In 2012 His rookie year the seahawks defense gave up 17 or less 11 times counting playoffs. The Buffalo Bills defense in EJ Manuel's rookie season held opponents to 17 or less - well NONE. I'm not saying EJ was good - I'm saying when your defense gives up nothing or next to nothing your interception, fumbles, bad plays don't matter as much your margin for error is much bigger. You can play loser knowing our defense will win the game - and they did.
Niagara Bill Posted August 13, 2014 Author Posted August 13, 2014 wow and wow and wow...... so many Neanderthals peripheral vision obstruction can hurt his reads and slow down reaction times for a QB. It happens to be a trait of successful QBs to have open vision. And do not suggest that Newton is successful compared to Manning, Wilson, Roethlesberger, Favre, Rodgers, JK etc. I believe it demonstrates a personality that will hold him back from being elite. He has an arm, good feet and intelligence but lack of true leadership and vision of the field can create another Trent Edwards.
Captain Caveman Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 I believe that a professional athlete would not wear a visor if it limited his vision on the field.
Canadian Bills Fan Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 Accuracy. Accuracy+Arm strength = Franchise QB CBF
Bob Malooga Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) This is the most comical thing I have ever read...is that Skooby? Cam Newton DOMINATED his rookie season, WITH a visor...as did Michal Vick. Pretty sure Jim McMahon won a Super Bowl, wearing a visor. Colin Kapernick has worn a visor, as has this guy named Peyton Manning. http://ind.scout.com...orm-ad-visor-y? Manning caused a bit of a stir when he and coach Jim Caldwell emerged from a sideline tent with a visor fitted on Manning's facemask. It's practice and the preseason...who cares what they wear? Clearly it has zero outcome on them as a player. Edited August 13, 2014 by Bob Malooga
prissythecat Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 unless Wilson was coming with his kick butt o -line and a dominating run game, and a smoothering defense it wouldn't have mattered. In 2012 His rookie year the seahawks defense gave up 17 or less 11 times counting playoffs. The Buffalo Bills defense in EJ Manuel's rookie season held opponents to 17 or less - well NONE. I'm not saying EJ was good - I'm saying when your defense gives up nothing or next to nothing your interception, fumbles, bad plays don't matter as much your margin for error is much bigger. You can play loser knowing our defense will win the game - and they did. Thank you . A lot of the "I wish we had Wilson" crowd still fail to understand that Seattle's supporting cast on defense and the run game are primarily responsible for Seattle's success. Wilson seems to be a solid QB but he has not been the one carrying the team.
Bob Malooga Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 Peyton Manning http://ww.tmnews.com/stories/2010/08/04/ul_S_Manning_080410%2BZ.jpg Carson Palmer http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/files/2011/03/091608CarsonPalmer.jpg Phillip Rivers http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Rivers-philip-rivers-420872_1024_768.jpg Cam Newton http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/002/522/733/181799717_crop_north.jpg?w=630&h=420&q=75 Michael Vick http://nbcsportsmedia1.msnbc.com/j/msnbc/Components/Video/2007/January/070131/070202_vick_vmed_3p.widec.jpg Jim McMahon http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/si_online/covers/images/1991/1202_large.jpg Ben Roethlisberger http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/916/000/109917621_display_image.jpg?1304538864 Johnny Manziel http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/photo/2013/05/06/0ap1000000167063.jpg Nick Foles http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2013/1020/nfl_e_foles_b1_576x324.jpg Dennis Dixon http://media.oregonlive.com/nfl/photo/dennisdixonvsatlantajpg-9a65cec52bbeb285_large.jpg (There are plenty more, including a lot of good college QB's who have worn them...but it's safe to say this is an absurd thread.) Colt Brennen, Terrell Pryor, Troy Smith, Marcus Mariota, Brandon Weeden...they all wore them in college as good QB's.
YoloinOhio Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) Peyton Manning http://ww.tmnews.com...ng_080410+Z.jpg Carson Palmer http://blog.thenewst...arsonPalmer.jpg Phillip Rivers http://images.fanpop...72_1024_768.jpg Cam Newton http://img.bleacherr...=630&h=420&q=75 Michael Vick http://nbcsportsmedi...ed_3p.widec.jpg Jim McMahon http://i.cdn.turner..../1202_large.jpg Ben Roethlisberger http://cdn.bleacherr....jpg?1304538864 Johnny Manziel http://static.nfl.co...00000167063.jpg Nick Foles http://a.espncdn.com..._b1_576x324.jpg Dennis Dixon http://media.oregonl...eb285_large.jpg (There are plenty more, including a lot of good college QB's who have worn them...but it's safe to say this is an absurd thread.) Colt Brennen, Terrell Pryor, Troy Smith, Marcus Mariota, Brandon Weeden...they all wore them in college as good QB's. So... not doomed? Edited August 13, 2014 by YoloinOhio
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