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The Bills lost to the Falcons and Buccaneers. They still had an outside shot at the playoffs when they played the Falcons.

It's a home opener against a team with no established QB.

If you were a Bears fan and the local media said anything other than definite win you would be ridiculing them.

Just win games and make the playoffs and then the media bias will be non-existent. The media only cares about winners.

I don't get this resignation to defeat we have. Oh, they're 8-8. We should just forfeit. We have a good team, danmit. Our D is good. Our RBs are good. Our kicker is clutch. We have as much chance to win this game as any. Cutler is nothing special. He's won nothing. Why are we in awe of him? F them, F Schopp. We got this one.

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I don't get this resignation to defeat we have. Oh, they're 8-8. We should just forfeit. We have a good team, danmit. Our D is good. Our RBs are good. Our kicker is clutch. We have as much chance to win this game as any. Cutler is nothing special. He's won nothing. Why are we in awe of him? F them, F Schopp. We got this one.

 

As fans we perceive those parts of our team to be good. Too bad it hasn't resulted in diddly poo. The reality is they haven't done diddly poo.

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Listening to local Chicago sports radio and most are calling the Bills an "easy win" for the Bears in the season opener.

It's that same old media bias against the Bills and it kind of stings a little hearing it first hand especially since the Bears were 8-8 last year.

How I would love for the Bills to prove them wrong in a big way!

 

Me too, but until we start winning we will be viewed as bottom feeders.

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If anyone wants to put up $$ on the Bills winning week 1 please message me.

 

Sounds like free money unfortunately I'm not interested in rooting against the Bills

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We shall see. Bills have institutionalized themselves as perennial league doormat. Until they start winning, opponents will be putting a Bills game in the "W" column every time. I guarantee most all opponents media and fans have their Bills game as a W.

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Sounds like free money unfortunately I'm not interested in rooting against the Bills

 

I'll take bets of any amounts that the Bills lose, all the people here can safely root for the Bills while backing up their predictions.

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I'll take bets of any amounts that the Bills lose, all the people here can safely root for the Bills while backing up their predictions.

 

I didn't read any "Bills will win" predictions in this thread. If there were, there were only a few. Your daring people to bet you makes it seem like the board was full of homers predicting them winning. I didn't read that here, I read replys from fans who thought the Bills would play them tough.

 

So in fairness to this thread, why don’t you take bets giving the Bills the 6-6.5 points?

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I didn't read any "Bills will win" predictions in this thread. If there were, there were only a few. Your daring people to bet you makes it seem like the board was full of homers predicting them winning. I didn't read that here, I read replys from fans who thought the Bills would play them tough.

 

So in fairness to this thread, why don’t you take bets giving the Bills the 6-6.5 points?

 

I read the replies and plenty of people were proclaiming victory so I'm giving them a chance to profit on these thoughts.

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I read the replies and plenty of people were proclaiming victory so I'm giving them a chance to profit on these thoughts.

 

I just read the whole thread, and of the 100+ posts in it, there were 5 predictions of victory.

 

I only saw 1 person, however, seemingly challenge the intelligence of those folks.

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I just read the whole thread, and of the 100+ posts in it, there were 5 predictions of victory.

 

I only saw 1 person, however, seemingly challenge the intelligence of those folks.

 

I saw a few more and what's the difference, I'm offering a chance for those people to bet the Bills vig free. They should jump at this opportunity.

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I saw a few more and what's the difference, I'm offering a chance for those people to bet the Bills vig free. They should jump at this opportunity.

 

The difference between "plenty of people" and "5 out of over 130" is, IMO, enormous.

 

As for the "opportunity" you're offering, it seems more like you're trying to make a point, and IMO, you can more readily make it by simply stating that you disagree with those select few that are proclaiming victory.

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The difference between "plenty of people" and "5 out of over 130" is, IMO, enormous.

 

As for the "opportunity" you're offering, it seems more like you're trying to make a point, and IMO, you can more readily make it by simply stating that you disagree with those select few that are proclaiming victory.

 

Assuming your five people is correct why don't you count the actual posters instead of post count?

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Assuming your five people is correct why don't you count the actual posters instead of post count?

 

Why bother, does it make your point any more salient? Would it change the definition of "plenty"?

 

If you are trying to say that you don't think the Bills have a chance, just say so and your point would be made.

 

That's the last I'm going to say about the topic.

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Chicago is a funny town. On one hand they have this big inferiority complex versus new York because of the "2nd city" label. (In my experience new yorkers don't even care or see any rivalry with chicago). Yet Chicago expresses this inferiority with a dismissive, arrogant attitude towards cities smaller than them.

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Bear fan here. I'd like to respectfully address a few things I have seen stated in this thread, but also in other threads:

  • I live a couple hours south of Chicago and listen to a fair amount of 670 am and 1000 am. I haven't been hearing the "easy win" comments. In fact, I haven't been hearing much, if any, week 1 game discussion at all yet.
  • Schwartz was 3-7 against the Bears as Lions HC. Many of you are selectively choosing to focus only on last year.
  • The Bears D is not nearly the same one that finished last season personnel-wise. Many of you seem to be banking on them making no improvements in their run defense, but at the same time assuming multiple facets of the Bills will be improved. Its a trap all fanbases fall into this time of year.
  • The Bears O-Line allowed the 4th fewest sacks in the NFL last year - clearly not terrible.
  • The biggest wildcard factor in the game is that it will be Week 1 and everyone is still sort of getting their feet under them. I would be less concerned about this game if it were Week 3 or later, but the fact that it is in Chicago (where they have dominated Week 1 games lately) makes me feel pretty good about their chances.
  • Buffalo's WRs are not "on par" with Chicago's. One hasn't even played a regular season NFL snap yet. I know you are excited about their potential, but c'mon.

Anyway, that's about it. No ill-will towards anyone that posts here, just thought I would provide an opposing viewpoint.

 

Welcome, Bears Fan. I'll take you on point for point.

 

Schwartz was 3 & 7 against the Bears?

 

That only makes me even more confident in a Bills win. When they review game film of Schwartz's defense they'll be looking at Detroit games. This defense is way better than that, even on the d-line. Suh is great, but I think Kyle is better. The rest of our front 4 is better than theirs too. Now for the rest of the D. It's not even close. Our back seven is far more superior to Detroit's. When they see Schwartz's defense on film they'll get a rude awakening on game-day. While I expect Marshall and Jeffrey to put up stats, I don't see them dominating.

 

You got Allen?

 

Great, but Father Time is undefeated. He's only getting older, not better. He finished strong last year but he started-off pretty pedestrian. The rest of your defense is unimpressive.

 

The fourth fewest sacks allowed?

 

Deceiving statistic. According to bleacher report the Bears allowed 45 hits, and 180 hurries. That's good for 30th in the league. The credit goes to the QBs for not taking sacks, not your offensive line. The Bills have the better pass rush than any team you faced last year. The Rams were the closest.

 

I agree with you on your last two points. Your receivers are way better than ours and you have the homefield advantage.

 

I say the Bills win a close one. The ugly Cutler will show up against our defense. That'll be the difference.

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Lots of good & bad posts on this thread but I have to be rational and agree with the side of "why would they respect us at all".

 

You can say what you want about potential (which I happen to agree with) but its only potential right now and with 4/5 of our last seasons ending with 6/10 we deserve to be taken lightly. Only way you can change that is on the field.

 

One last thing about the Bears W.R's: anyone who watched Marshall & Alshon play on the field at the same time would know that we are a long way away from that. I agree that we probably have more depth at the position were one of them to go down but they have 2 top 10 wideouts on their team.

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Lots of good & bad posts on this thread but I have to be rational and agree with the side of "why would they respect us at all".

 

You can say what you want about potential (which I happen to agree with) but its only potential right now and with 4/5 of our last seasons ending with 6/10 we deserve to be taken lightly. Only way you can change that is on the field.

 

One last thing about the Bears W.R's: anyone who watched Marshall & Alshon play on the field at the same time would know that we are a long way away from that. I agree that we probably have more depth at the position were one of them to go down but they have 2 top 10 wideouts on their team.

Their receives are good and they've invested a lot in them, but not being a homer here ours have a chance to be just as good if not better (more depth). Won't know until their on the field in regular season. If there's an advantage bears WRs will have its more familiarity with QB. But pass rush can change that in a hurry. IMO either secondary will get eaten alive if the QB has time to throw

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Lots of good & bad posts on this thread but I have to be rational and agree with the side of "why would they respect us at all".

 

You can say what you want about potential (which I happen to agree with) but its only potential right now and with 4/5 of our last seasons ending with 6/10 we deserve to be taken lightly. Only way you can change that is on the field.

 

One last thing about the Bears W.R's: anyone who watched Marshall & Alshon play on the field at the same time would know that we are a long way away from that. I agree that we probably have more depth at the position were one of them to go down but they have 2 top 10 wideouts on their team.

 

Yeah, I agree their WR may give us fits if we can't pressure Cutler. Luckily, I think we will. And hopefully Duke decapitates Bennett so he's a non-factor, too.

 

If we can take Forte out of the game, making Jay toss it 35 times might be the key. All the Bills fans clamoring for the Pettine-style blitzes should hope for a more subdued approach. I don't want out LBs and safeties leaving Forte open in the flats too often.

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