The Jokeman Posted August 12, 2014 Posted August 12, 2014 Has anyone even been long snapping in the preseason? I admit I haven't paid attention in so then yes Sanborn might be in trouble. Anyone know?
RussellDopeland Posted August 12, 2014 Posted August 12, 2014 Lee Smith is an awful TE. His "forte" is supposed to be his blocking- however he's mediocre at that. He offers nothing in the passing game; he's slower than molasses in January, and has two left feet. So we should keep him and also allow Smith to be the LS as well? Sanborn is solid (I can't recall a bad snap of note from recent memory). To cut Sanborn in lieu of keeping, let's say, a kickoff specialist is nonsensical. And to replace him with Lee Smith is an absurdity. Frankly, I'd rather the Bills had the REAL Lee Smith on their roster- he may be 56 years old now, but I bet his fastball is still pretty good- probably better than Tuel's.
3rdand12 Posted August 12, 2014 Posted August 12, 2014 (edited) I think this will be a grooming year for Hopkins... Maybe next year, if he's ready, he can replace Carpenter. That would also free up a couple bucks for FA or retaining current talent... Approx $1,749,500 worth.... No absolutely not. You damn CEO s and COOs !Why is it about the money . Ever ?. Sure there is a spending limit but jeez cheaping out on paper towels and using ****ty coffee ? Thats my analogy of Sanborns financial weight against the margin. But every team has one. The best idea is to have him create added value by being pretty good at something else . so cross training seems obvious. Very seriously. It seems just that simple to me. by the way. I bet we keep G S. Lee is just working on his backup skills since he too , needs to create added value for theTeam Edited August 12, 2014 by 3rdand12
Manther Posted August 12, 2014 Posted August 12, 2014 Whelp, we now know Gugny is on twitter as rquinn619. I seriously doubt that they would go with Smith. A blocking TE is likely to get dinged up during a season and where does that leave you? Sure, you'd have an emergency LS (what Smith is now) but now you're talking about your 3rd best at a position being the focal point of all punts and FG attempts. The chance of a player that plays in physical plays and can get hurt makes a lot of sense why you wouldn't go that route!
boyst Posted August 12, 2014 Posted August 12, 2014 I hold the position of LS as sacred. However, I am going to leave it up to the coaches to decide if it is worth it. I snapped in HS and was recruited to do so in college at a few decent programs and had invites to walk on as a preferred walk on status since no big school would actually provide a scholarship to a LS. My HS special teams coach had punted for the Bengals for two or three years and was extremely good at coaching. He would time my snaps and said I was as good as most in college. He also said that my chances of ever going somewhere as a long snapper were nothing and I'd be happier running track - which is what I did. Snapping is not easy, you have to be able to perform and have to be able to like clockwork. You can lose the game with just the flick of your wrist and you get the **** kicked out of you every single time because you're left exposed. Lee Smith is an awful TE. His "forte" is supposed to be his blocking- however he's mediocre at that. How are you judging? Against whom are you judging? Find me a TE that blocks better. When you compare him to OL, of course he's not as good. When you compare him to other TE's like Gronk who only chip the defender or Graham who runs around him - that's just not fair. Smith is an above average blocker for a TE. No if's and's or butt's.
CountryCletus Posted August 12, 2014 Posted August 12, 2014 No absolutely not. You damn CEO s and COOs ! Why is it about the money . Ever ?. Sure there is a spending limit but jeez cheaping out on paper towels and using ****ty coffee ? Thats my analogy of Sanborns financial weight against the margin. But every team has one. The best idea is to have him create added value by being pretty good at something else . so cross training seems obvious. Very seriously. It seems just that simple to me. by the way. I bet we keep G S. Lee is just working on his backup skills since he too , needs to create added value for theTeam I was talking kickers, not long snapper...
Fixxxer Posted August 12, 2014 Posted August 12, 2014 I don't want to go back to the years of amateur long snappers like Bill Conaty, Dan O'leary, Morris Unutoa or Trey Teague. Bad snaps can lose you games, Sanborn is non-negotiable.
3rdand12 Posted August 12, 2014 Posted August 12, 2014 I was talking kickers, not long snapper... Semantics .
3rdand12 Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 I don't want to go back to the years of amateur long snappers like Bill Conaty, Dan O'leary, Morris Unutoa or Trey Teague. Bad snaps can lose you games, Sanborn is non-negotiable. Why we even talk about this is kinda silly. If the Bills find him valuable then so be it. But i do enjoy some of the in depth and well thought out points from some here abouts
Gray Beard Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 Sanborn actually makes tackles on punt coverage. He doesn't just snap the ball and lie down. Special teams were a weakness last year, so why take away one of the more successful facets of special teams this year?
Manther Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 Sanborn actually makes tackles on punt coverage. He doesn't just snap the ball and lie down. Special teams were a weakness last year, so why take away one of the more successful facets of special teams this year? Another good point!
Captain Hindsight Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 Sanborn actually makes tackles on punt coverage. He doesn't just snap the ball and lie down. Special teams were a weakness last year, so why take away one of the more successful facets of special teams this year? But is he a franchise long snapper???
Bills Fan since '64 Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 Through a quick google search, I couldn't find one nfl team that doesn't have a dedicated long snapper Through a quick Google search, I couldn't find two NFL teams that haven't made the playoffs in 14 years.
Beerball Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 Only 4 pages? Cut him, it's obvious that nobody cares.
Nanker Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 But is he a franchise long snapper??? Or at least a legit #1 long snapper.
CountryCletus Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 Through a quick Google search, I couldn't find two NFL teams that haven't made the playoffs in 14 years. I'm confused as to your point... Unless it's just a joke, then I totally get it!
CountryCletus Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 I can't believe you !@#$ing people. %yourinabitytoBillieve....
Turbosrrgood Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 This is already my favorite thread of the offseason...But in all seriousness, I would much rather have Sanborn long snapping, than I would Lee Smith in ANY role on the team.
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